From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bind commands that change buffer contents to `undefined' when read-only? Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:14:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190657694 3859 80.91.229.12 (24 Sep 2007 18:14:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 24 20:14:49 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IZsSG-0004Rs-Ha for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:14:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZsSE-0006SV-06 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:14:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZsSA-0006SF-Ns for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:14:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZsS9-0006S3-1t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:14:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZsS8-0006S0-UR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:14:40 -0400 Original-Received: from vpn-132-204-232-21.acd.umontreal.ca ([132.204.232.21] helo=ceviche.home) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZsS8-00020N-FF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:14:40 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C2BD3B4134; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:14:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon\, 24 Sep 2007 09\:12\:41 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79726 Archived-At: > A user is more likely to try `C-h b' to see which keys are available. Could be, but to tell you the truth I've never seen anyone use C-h b (OK, I adimit I've used it a couple times, but always only to see what it does, not to see the info it gives me). And the result is always so long anyway that I doubt a user would bother to go through it to find a useful keybinding. Instead, I expect he'd try a keybinding which he finds convenient/intuitive/menmonic. Or maybe he wouldn't even try it and would go ahead and blindly bind the key and only (much) later he may learn that the key he chose so may years ago actually had another useful meaning. Stefan