From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: v for view-mode Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:20:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87lk5rbket.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <86d4r3ut6f.fsf@timbral.net> <871w7jaykg.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <007a01c86d04$b0555be0$9eb22382@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202786436 22418 80.91.229.12 (12 Feb 2008 03:20:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Evans Winner' , emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Miles Bader' To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 12 04:20:58 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JOlhX-0000m7-LE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:20:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JOlh4-00088K-6y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:20:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOlgr-00084i-D6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:20:13 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JOlgo-00083o-Pe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:20:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JOlgo-00083i-Hp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:20:10 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JOlgl-00026R-3E; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:20:07 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CALeesEdMCpK7/2dsb2JhbACrEns X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,336,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="14329578" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 11 Feb 2008 22:20:05 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([76.10.146.187]) by smtp.pppoe.ca (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id SFG71805; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:20:05 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id DD0307FD8; Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:20:04 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <007a01c86d04$b0555be0$9eb22382@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:20:27 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88820 Archived-At: > Agreed wrt view-mode's complexity. And don't forget the hyperbolic > (or is it metabolic?) view-mode quitting code. Bind-moggling. Yup. I welcome a fresh rewrite where "compatibility" is not taken into account. The only goal should be "provide approximately the same set of features". Stefan