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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Paul R <paul.r.ml@gmail.com>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs 21/22:  french ç and œ
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:27:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvy70824cq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871vy0yi9a.fsf@gmail.com> (Paul R.'s message of "Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:13:53 +0100")

Uwe> I am not sure whether in french oe always should be represented
Uwe> by the symbol œ?
> No, it is not. The word « coefficient » is an exemple, it just can't
> be written « cœfficient ».

Indeed, kind of like the "ue -> ü" in German, where zuerst can't be
written zürst, but it's really one of a fairly few exceptions.
I don't know if that means that ("oe" ?œ) would be desirable or
annoying, tho.

> For what it's worth, also, writing « coeur » is incorrect, it can only
> be written « cœur ».

Never heard of that one, so maybe the French Academy made such
a decision at some point, but it hasn't seen much use.  Especially since
œ didn't even make it into latin-1 and was hence "unavailable" for
many years.

> IOW, 'œ' really is a first class caracter in French and isn't
> equivalent to 'oe'.

The "Robert" dictionary sorts "œ" as if it were "oe", so it's pretty
close to equivalent.

> A simple diff against the old file is ok? Or are some parameters needed
> for the diff?

Preferably -u (or failing that -c).

> Where shall I send this "patch"

Right here.


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-28 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-27 11:35 Emacs 21/22: french ç and œ Uwe Brauer
2008-10-27 11:49 ` Emacs 21/22: french ç and ^[$(D)M^[(B Miles Bader
2008-10-27 11:56 ` Emacs 21/22: french ^[$(D+.^[(B " Kenichi Handa
2008-10-27 12:17   ` Uwe Brauer
2008-10-31  4:06     ` Emacs 21/22: french ç and ŠKenichi Handa
2008-10-27 12:01 ` Emacs 21/22: french ç and ^[$(D)M^[(B Miles Bader
2008-10-27 12:04   ` Miles Bader
2008-10-27 12:20     ` Uwe Brauer
2008-10-27 21:44       ` Non-encoded character in the subject (was: Emacs 21/22: french ç and œ) Reiner Steib
2008-10-27 23:57         ` Non-encoded character in the subject Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-10-28 22:03           ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-28 23:49             ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-10-29  1:04               ` Miles Bader
2008-10-31  4:51             ` Miles Bader
2008-10-27 12:07   ` Emacs 21/22: french ç and ^[$(D)M^[(B Uwe Brauer
2008-10-27 12:19     ` Miles Bader
2008-10-27 13:25 ` Emacs 21/22: french ç and œ Stefan Monnier
2008-10-27 13:33   ` Uwe Brauer
2008-10-27 14:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-27 20:26       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-28 12:35       ` Uwe Brauer
2008-10-28 13:13         ` Paul R
2008-10-28 13:56           ` Uwe Brauer
2008-10-28 14:27           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-10-28 14:34             ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-10-28 15:24             ` Paul R
2008-10-28 17:52               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-28 14:59           ` Uwe Brauer
2008-11-20 14:20     ` Agustin Martin

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