From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bash scripts in black and white Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 09:56:28 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4BEBC372.5010402@alice.it> <4BEDBF5C.1040306@alice.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273931799 5048 80.91.229.12 (15 May 2010 13:56:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 13:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs , Angelo Graziosi To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 15 15:56:38 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODHr3-0004KJ-U9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 15:56:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55603 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ODHr3-00045k-Co for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 09:56:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56931 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ODHqy-00045d-2g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 09:56:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODHqw-0003wd-Ii for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 09:56:31 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:31778 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODHqw-0003wW-GE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 09:56:30 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAFZE7ktMCrUO/2dsb2JhbACeAHK6W4UQBIwv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,236,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="64266761" Original-Received: from 76-10-181-14.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.181.14]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 15 May 2010 09:56:29 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 056428038; Sat, 15 May 2010 09:56:29 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Sat, 15 May 2010 00:40:24 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124807 Archived-At: >> PS. Sometime one gets the idea that Emacs's developers do not test deeply >> (for example, with at least a clean bootstrap) their changes... This would >> explain why the bugs tracker is at #6193 :-) A clean bootstrap is obviously out of the question for me. OTOH, I'd be happy if someone setup a build robot that constantly tries to build Emacs, then run some tests, and if they all succeeds updates a branch. This way we can point people to *that* branch where the obvious bugs have been filtered. It wouldn't reduce the number of bug-reports, but it would make reports such as this sh-script one be machine-generated rather than human-generated, leading maybe to less frustration. > If someone has time to add unit tests to Emacs this would be a bit > better... ;-) > ert.el with my small additions could handle tests for things like this. Yes, as I said, I'd be delighted to integrate something like that in emacs/test. Stefan