From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package and testing rant (was Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:13:25 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87a943umku.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcvm7fj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wq72ls2h.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87k332lnn3.fsf_-_@ferrier.me.uk> <878ujhtx89.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415808874 11881 80.91.229.3 (12 Nov 2014 16:14:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 12 17:14:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XoaYm-0000Gx-Hf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:14:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55561 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoaYl-0007km-Ta for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:14:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47046) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoaY2-0006XU-Q7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:13:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoaXv-0001SK-3p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:13:34 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:12035) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoaXu-0001SG-W0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:13:27 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au4MAOatTlRLd+sd/2dsb2JhbABcgw6DYoZ+y1MEAgKBHBcBAXyEAwEBAwFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSISwnLcgEBAQcBAQEBHpEIB4RLBYtkjS8FmQiBb4I0gWIfgnoBAQE X-IPAS-Result: Au4MAOatTlRLd+sd/2dsb2JhbABcgw6DYoZ+y1MEAgKBHBcBAXyEAwEBAwFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSISwnLcgEBAQcBAQEBHpEIB4RLBYtkjS8FmQiBb4I0gWIfgnoBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.04,797,1406606400"; d="scan'208";a="96758844" Original-Received: from 75-119-235-29.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.235.29]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 12 Nov 2014 11:13:26 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0C3FA43C2; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:13:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <878ujhtx89.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:20:54 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176823 Archived-At: > that package. So the first question to decide would be if elpa.git is a > source archive or a package archive. I want it to be a source archive. > In words, the package and version file, a separate autoload file that > Org needs (in addition to the autoload file that later gets created on > the users' machine) The org-pkg.el file is nowadays built by the GNU ELPA scripts (there's even a special exception in this script specifically for Org, which is the only package where this file is not auto-built yet). What is the "version" file? Can you give further details on this extra autoload file? > and the documentation all need to be created before packaging > things up. Right, the doc-generation is a step that's clearly lacking in the current GNU ELPA scripts. Stefan