From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why does the tutorial talk about C-n/C-p etc? Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:08:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87y49q64eg.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87wpp9dkux.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83twkbfofd.fsf@gnu.org> <838u1mfi7q.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457888962 30403 80.91.229.3 (13 Mar 2016 17:09:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 17:09:22 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 13 18:09:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1af9Vw-0008Rb-Gu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:09:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36859 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1af9Vs-0007kd-Od for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:09:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34945) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1af9Ve-0007kK-G2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:08:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1af9Va-0001YB-Fk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:08:54 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:33748) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1af9Va-0001Y7-8n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:08:50 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1af9VY-0008HH-Ml for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:08:48 +0100 Original-Received: from 75-119-255-146.dsl.teksavvy.com ([75.119.255.146]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:08:48 +0100 Original-Received: from monnier by 75-119-255-146.dsl.teksavvy.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:08:48 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 12 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 75-119-255-146.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dW4iDg2kmRojw6JD8Nroum5Xfbo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201608 Archived-At: >> If arrows keys work out of the box then C-p/n etc. should be >> in a section called advanced cursor control or something like >> that and it should be moved somewhere to the end. > It's not an advanced topic, its basic cursor motion. What he means by "advanced topic" is "something that's not indispensable to start using Emacs effectively". In this sense, it is "advanced topic". You don't have to use C-fbnp in order to use M-n, M-p, C-M-f, C-M-b, ... Stefan