From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 23:17:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87o9sp7qok.fsf@gmail.com> <87zic9vk98.fsf@mouse> <87fue17mo5.fsf@gmail.com> <87tw2hvhob.fsf@mouse> <8760ex63hi.fsf@gmail.com> <87fue1v5lr.fsf@mouse> <87shi0tqh3.fsf@gmail.com> <87d18fwl66.fsf@gmail.com> <87tw1rihu0.fsf@mouse> <4037dc81-4245-6925-842a-2c84a5ba996d@cs.ucla.edu> <87pocfibky.fsf@mouse> <87d18cbg66.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501816657 10423 195.159.176.226 (4 Aug 2017 03:17:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 03:17:37 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 04 05:17:32 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddT7E-0002PL-1D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 05:17:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52739 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddT7K-0004wn-59 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 23:17:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51902) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddT7B-0004wc-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 23:17:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddT78-0003bo-Nx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 23:17:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=57109 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddT78-0003Zj-Hw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 23:17:26 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddT6w-0001Xj-UH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 05:17:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:fLu0tla4wdo20vFYmccwJOgx8hc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217277 Archived-At: > IMHO, this replacement is OK only if the message has buttons to take the > appropriate actions (including silencing warnings as needed). Otherwise > it's noise users will filter out. I generally agree on the principle, but at the same time I wonder what actions would make sense: there are basically 2 applicable actions, one of which (contact the webmaster to suggest upgrading to a better protocol) is difficult to automate. As for the other action (silence the warning) I wonder if it's really needed: if the mechanism is discreet enough, it's just as easy for the user to "filter it out as noise". Stefan