From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The importance of secrecy Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:53:52 -0400 Message-ID: <jwvy3hc2v6e.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> References: <87zi23bg67.fsf@gmail.com> <m2po2y9j3v.fsf@aurox.ch> <87efjd3alj.fsf@gmail.com> <878t9dw3it.fsf@gmail.com> <m3bme8k6ad.fsf@gnus.org> <jwv1sf4cx5u.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> <87po2omkbx.fsf@fastmail.fm> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1524603134 3357 195.159.176.226 (24 Apr 2018 20:52:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:52:14 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 24 22:52:09 2018 Return-path: <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1fB4v3-0000nI-IA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:52:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60769 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1fB4xA-00055o-CV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:54:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49912) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org>) id 1fB4x3-00055W-1O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:54:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org>) id 1fB4x0-0002BA-06 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:54:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=53033 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org>) id 1fB4wz-0002Ar-P7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:54:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org>) id 1fB4um-0000WF-6z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:51:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:Zw5g4BDgHi2+gN33GDn7M8Fx2Qs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-devel@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:224841 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/224841> > Note that these "anonymous" modes that modern browser implement really only > serve to hide one's browsing history from family members and > flat/room/office mates that you share your computer with. Until your computer is subpoena'd, stolen, hacked into, accidentally mishandled, ... Whether you personally feel like these are serious threats to you right now is not the point. Information can easily be preserved for years, so even those same pieces of data about which you don't care right now might turn into very serious matters 10 years from now because your situation or the world around you has changed. To be honest, I feel like using exclusively Free Software, shying away from cell phones and centralized systems like Facebook/Whatsapp/..., and preferring good'ol cash makes me look pretty close to the prototypical sophisticated criminal living "off-the-grid" in your average policial TV series. The only saving grace is that I constantly post to public mailing-lists like this one ;-) Stefan