From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 17:02:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87k11htj96.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87pnb7u70r.fsf@red-bean.com> <87y2pvrzho.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87y2pvqhuj.fsf@red-bean.com> <87pnaog13i.fsf@red-bean.com> <87h7w0f03x.fsf@red-bean.com> <5bae1fd5-52ef-46f1-c728-8d5940bf5bbc@yandex.ru> <20200528205249.GC919@breton.holly.idiocy.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="52056"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: cwebber@dustycloud.org, Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Karl Fogel , Dmitry Gutov , ndame@protonmail.com To: Alan Third Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 28 23:03:22 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jePgQ-000DOz-90 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 23:03:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48948 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jePgP-0005Q9-6p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 17:03:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60684) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jePfj-0004y6-BH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 17:02:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:57748) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jePfh-0005RE-QH; Thu, 28 May 2020 17:02:38 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 28D00440F33; Thu, 28 May 2020 17:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A86F6440DCD; Thu, 28 May 2020 17:02:34 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1590699754; bh=ciyYFIinYJHuJgEt2QvbZlqJbzDxevQAZad+AH6dzmM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=atFbM77ehs8xbTe1TIq6KD74w+HWj1RRHdXtiAbKj3HYJX9Qq6Rx7di7gCZgGVmqC WIFWcXKEsVUQ87stOjDF5zaeSkGg0o+5pmg69F96qWccAr2I+ssdwk0sGBELw4f/OP 74M2NFwuEe082dsfYhYV61/TTor9ap2DbrMBCtCI9Ky7/ZfEeTo/Zc3Ejy5vn5sSls 30la7outdaLwMshFWcya7mEbnqsGXFS+PF+j4zjJ/oOcsnhDmV8jFSZs8vbiYlRr2S m1KlfmiRoV5cosQVnuDOnOAP2IkCEHXd7jjWJ8nOh+GvRL6LafXqmaEf+j/6rx8PQE Oyo9UQsgRsUBg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.27.250]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57F2E120800; Thu, 28 May 2020 17:02:34 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20200528205249.GC919@breton.holly.idiocy.org> (Alan Third's message of "Thu, 28 May 2020 21:52:49 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/28 17:02:36 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251581 Archived-At: > This seems like a reasonable solution to me. Alternatively perhaps we > just need to sell C-x C-f as "open a file or directory" rather than > "find a file"? A directory *is* a file. Stefan