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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Gregory Heytings <ghe@sdf.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Opening Up More Keymaps Re: Standardizing more key bindings?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:19:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvy2krklw6.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2009302306220453.5422@sdf.lonestar.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Wed, 30 Sep 2020 21:13:08 +0000")

>>> that's an interesting perspective.  Am surprized that you feel tty users
>>> would find C-z z significantly harder than just C-z as the key to
>>> suspend Emacs.
>> I assume tty users have "C-z to suspend" hardwired in their fingers and
>> would be quite surprised if any application decides to use another binding
>> for it.
> That's correct, except if that application uses C-z C-z to
> suspend.  Repeating a key until it produces the expected effect is also
> something tty users are used to do.  For example repeating C-c until the
> program aborts.

Very good point, there are cases where `C-z` needs to be repeated
(e.g. to suspend editing a commit message in "Zile launched by Git" ;-)

I usually consider those as bugs, but it does make `C-z C-z` into
a viable option.  Obviously, not a good option if you want to bind `C-z`
to `undo` but viable if you want to use `C-z` for a new keymap ;-)


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-30 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-27  9:31 Standardizing more key bindings? Thibaut Verron
2020-09-27 15:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28  3:44 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-28  4:38   ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-28  7:39     ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-29  3:30       ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-29  5:07         ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-29 10:36           ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-10-01  4:09           ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-01  5:20             ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-29 21:56         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-01  4:27           ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-01  6:56             ` References to "REPL" from past Jean Louis
2020-11-01 13:51             ` Standardizing more key bindings? Stefan Monnier
2020-11-02  5:41               ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-02  6:14                 ` Yuri Khan
2020-11-02  8:08                   ` tomas
2020-11-02  9:50                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-02 11:40                     ` Python REPL using standard library functions Yuri Khan
2020-11-02 22:46                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-01 21:35             ` Standardizing more key bindings? Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-01 22:27               ` Drew Adams
2020-11-02  5:46               ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-29 21:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-30  6:08   ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-30 16:58     ` Opening Up More Keymaps " T.V Raman
2020-09-30 17:29       ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-30 18:12         ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-30 18:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 18:35         ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 18:41           ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-30 19:54           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 19:58             ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 20:00               ` Noam Postavsky
2020-09-30 20:03                 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 21:00                   ` chad
2020-09-30 21:34                     ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 20:45               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 20:51                 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 21:13                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-30 21:19                   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-09-30 21:37                     ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 21:44                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 23:07                         ` T.V Raman
2020-10-01  2:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01  3:27                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-01 12:38                   ` Ergus
2020-10-01 14:17                     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-01 14:45                       ` Caio Henrique
2020-10-02  3:54                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 10:43                         ` Ergus
2020-10-04 19:34                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-02  3:49                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02  6:56                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 11:34                       ` Ergus
2020-10-02 12:26                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-04  3:38                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04 10:38                         ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04 13:46                           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-04 16:24                             ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04 17:00                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-04 17:32                                 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04 17:46                                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-05  3:11                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-06  8:59                                       ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-10-04 17:46                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-05  3:13                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04 14:10                       ` Howard Melman
2020-10-02  3:45     ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02  6:26       ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04  3:39         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04  3:39         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02  6:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 14:00         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-04  3:38         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04  7:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05  3:14             ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 13:56       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-03  2:57         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-06 12:53 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2020-10-06 13:27   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-06 14:24     ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2020-10-06 14:43       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-08  9:40         ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2020-10-07  4:19   ` Richard Stallman

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