From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Friendlier dired experience [CODE INCLUDED] Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2020 10:45:28 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20201103104340.q34kqfita55w2u7h@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20201104183228.xf7w4yf3fw3427y5@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20201105092232.fk4r5dexnay3eyln@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20201105143800.7vt5jfr4gg2wigyb@E15-2016.optimum.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27211"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Boruch Baum , Emacs-Devel List To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 05 16:47:48 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kahUJ-0006nz-P2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 16:47:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34144 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kahUI-00032p-Pv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 10:47:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33322) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kahSB-0001aK-Vo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 10:45:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:49265) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kahS8-0005wX-J4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 10:45:34 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DF943440B3E; Thu, 5 Nov 2020 10:45:30 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 9E981440AE3; Thu, 5 Nov 2020 10:45:29 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1604591129; bh=2uoJflgyhygM5NXkvX3qDC7JBb04aaNVIF0skMcdu7k=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=hRiTWwEHgQAdi0IZyESMPyvMhizK4LymBsDFu32RKZfeAjXiKhXS5PYw37Et5lMi9 rboz04WDGU6GrFfz/DeWZSo7fdu8mrIgtiRv3LNZTOIBvLMiVYh6CxlV9KRYc7uE9h LFyCpYKKyq2wHvWUPVa0qkfOzmPj6fRVv9iMxo1S5XGY7o5DnnhZU0/ow4ONpMUpfr tuPN2190jufNS2jrEPV/ZG2kyidXJjmJpnFcFfoclFa1NqxksGLP8prAgayeYHAJuA wK2XKSWmlPYHoYXGyCQprI2wgiL872EWVlVdPYpyXBCgGf+Y8EPJmGCJi2pADlPvg3 dZmp6RgKQxZvg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2FCD212002C; Thu, 5 Nov 2020 10:45:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Arthur Miller's message of "Thu, 05 Nov 2020 16:34:48 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/05 09:21:03 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258732 Archived-At: >> You'd still have the downside that the general bookmarks include all the >> other non-directory bookmarks, so maybe it's not a good idea anyway. >> [ I'm not using bookmarks very much, so my intuition here is poor. ] > Why would that be a downside? That you can have name conflicts between the diredc and other bookmarks, and that when selecting a diredc bookmark you'd have to see all those other bookmarks which might make it more timeconsuming to find the bookmark you're after. For the first problem, I don't have a good solution. For the second, I think this actually hints at a need for the generic bookmark-selection functionality to offer a way to first select a *type* of bookmark and only then pick a name among the remaining candidates. [ And of course, in the absence of such generic support in bookmark.el, diredc could do it on its own by offer a command which pre-filters the list of bookmarks to only include those which refer to directories. ] Stefan