From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: xterm [menu] key definition Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 09:59:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20210819024728.kgnf6jmpakqdto4p.ref@Ergus> <20210819024728.kgnf6jmpakqdto4p@Ergus> <87mtp71i4s.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <20210824164036.caohbap24666ij35@Ergus> <20210824232033.ksesfe3ewflbsv63@Ergus> <83o89lvju4.fsf@gnu.org> <83o89ku23n.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5834"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: spacibba@aol.com, juri@linkov.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 26 15:59:58 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJFvB-00019d-I2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:59:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41826 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJFv9-0001MY-If for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 09:59:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:32954) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJFuT-0000hH-Ga for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 09:59:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:61862) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJFuQ-0000Ta-DJ; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 09:59:11 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D454C1001FB; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 09:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7C58C1001F3; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 09:59:06 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1629986346; bh=ohWPdMst6vazU232jfh4zMBBC/03Eri3WREFfit4u70=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=h9r0Uit6j9tJmf75P7CvZKzAxzNKUT7inmvMkTAxAZ0w70F7eH5XualHZEeRaO2LD NS8uedxH0RdpdL2p8o1zRM/GAezmtF/FnvR0p+xVMSoLnmuedIWmnEUKXYgJmnVGMQ ifqwWqi0gysP5eKVT+niQnZ5J80FmjDTJLeV5NhLJZfGSZiOq/vugxEwzzKh3EExFh dN0cuLuPZINHHaBU7uorbgbAc2g4G1QmhW2mbHdJDpFn+2L5pE1dY3wwT1b+wAGler T8D2A8X7wL9ZkxA/m/alzAuVEA3G+Bgasn7EdgBA97wSAigOphSaOIOuxv5uYMCZBG V8t7/PGjEcocA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.244.135]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 256631201AA; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 09:59:06 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83o89ku23n.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 26 Aug 2021 09:55:24 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273031 Archived-At: >> ** The escape sequence '\e[29~' in xterm is now mapped to 'menu' >> Xterm sends this sequence for both 'F16' and 'Menu' keys. >> It used to be mapped to 'print' but we couldn't find a terminal >> that uses this sequence for any kind of 'Print' key. >> >> which seems so obscure that I'm not sure it's more helpful than harmful. >> Opinion? > Always good to have that, OK, I'll add it. > but it keeps silent about the main part: what and where is that "Menu" > key on a modern keyboard? A few problems here: - I'm not sure it's relevant to this change, actually. - I don't know where such a key might be. I don't have one on any of my keywords, AFAICT. My best guess from souvenirs of seeing other keyboards is that it'd be the key that is labeled with something that looks like a drop down menu? Wouldn't that description be kind of tautological? - If the keyboard is properly configured, I'd expect the user reading the NEWS file is the person best positioned to know where the `Menu` key is. Stefan