From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: NonGNU ELPA: New package: taxy.el Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:11:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8735qw7ybl.fsf@alphapapa.net> <87y28n7r2l.fsf@alphapapa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35336"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Adam Porter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 27 02:12:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJPU0-0008ws-Je for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 02:12:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60900 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJPTy-0008Ug-Tl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:12:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51596) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJPT6-0007om-MS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:11:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:5523) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJPT1-0006VD-DF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:11:35 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A98841001FB; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D85541001F3; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:11:21 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1630023081; bh=kNrZvq0MnrzQf1vXyYvzayBPSPOta7MLHf/oAvPftqw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=PiAs9cTvnWPTuB98KAqBujBeXv/z24bRvqBwr6yBtzR15RYVWblQkteeEu8COemIn dMV8a1Bn2mPGbPIpgRpo4/CUGNu67dueCYDfzehz4v19ldXDP3GGWfxXILNk0IDDvO Q6+tRyqpBL1UlzK/4va01ASpVt+QMmBbIJ/rya3oCaDaBFwxGdu0FqCtk6KvD5YEUb PWT0DI5APMqkr1m5rjUzrlp6w/quY2MHm/Z+GXsrLvJ/C66hRvuxPVPdV9bR9lKe4x ukBTDO4g4rHxhsDLLsVXjkaxzSu9/HAjYr2LkQ1fGaWN1ef7cDbs7JuZx3qVsOUTtH fnSoMKQsqHnLw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.244.135]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA395120163; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:11:21 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87y28n7r2l.fsf@alphapapa.net> (Adam Porter's message of "Thu, 26 Aug 2021 17:56:50 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273099 Archived-At: >> Why not GNU ELPA? [...] > Anyway, if you want to convince me to use GNU ELPA instead, I'm willing > to listen. :) The way I see NonGNU ELPA is for packages which we Emacs maintainers would like to see included in Emacs because they're important for the whole Emacs community, but for some reason we were not able to collect the needed paperwork. At least, that was the motivation behind the creation of the NonGNU ELPA archive. taxy.el fails this test on 2 counts: 1- we already have the paperwork. 2- while it may be a handy package and may yet develop into a cornerstone of Emacs, there aren't hordes of users or packages that depend on it currently. Admittedly, some of the packages that were added lately to NonGNU also fail the "importance" test, so it's probably not as important a criteria as I thought it is. Stefan