From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Allowing point to be outside the window? Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:20:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ilwd7zaq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilwd7zaq.fsf@yahoo.com> <83bl24yaed.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfvg7l51.fsf@yahoo.com> <83zgpowu23.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgpo5tws.fsf@yahoo.com> <83pmqkwi6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87v90c5su6.fsf@yahoo.com> <83o864wg2a.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilwb68ck.fsf@yahoo.com> <83zgpnunfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsrf3xmd.fsf@yahoo.com> <83y257ulfp.fsf@gnu.org> <8735ne4e0e.fsf@yahoo.com> <83pmqhtuzz.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32922"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Drew Adams , luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 01 00:21:39 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1msCRO-0008ON-HA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 00:21:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52522 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msCRM-0004M3-Th for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:21:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41556) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msCQH-0003JM-PM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:20:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:18773) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msCQF-0002oc-CK; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:20:28 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A64BA4413BB; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:20:25 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 2E35D441380; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:20:24 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1638314424; bh=dhRpK2M2r37X2l7UDjAN+LH2ubUtsb7/u79YWP2GXF4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=I+u0JyjguYfNRs8Bvsos3ZHXxAAArQcJP5zIjTs38/HPpXNf73UjQJZaLMkHWkNg7 8LYYVGUx4scO+IeuqLZpQ5mPcZKMt862rg6OS061ZONt+OvocaKQ+Fd/T9FyAJL6IL So5BJRpp2RCguihZ1N0wsrzjR7wN2aBd+xpZSst7qTyp9ksOu+i2yLSxX07DfBtgtE qQqATqJPQmYcd6ZOFgN8hweBZN3tkG+togjyirphCiQ8H7RGDS8PTfjnixTLlpn0u1 3aJmcw+dJAOkFdv0afdYi6CB4hTttkqor91qniRSiX/Tojkq3unu74It7ff5JX2v6n H3HeDJpL0KDgw== Original-Received: from alfajor (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 179001208A3; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:20:24 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83pmqhtuzz.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 30 Nov 2021 19:26:40 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280565 Archived-At: > I think kill commands that use point should be disabled when point is > outside of the viewport. I suspect this would not be worth the trouble and could be annoying in some cases where the users know very well what they're doing. Let the users shoot themselves in the foot if they want. There's `undo` to reattach the foot anyway. Stefan