From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preloading xwidget.el on xwidget builds? Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 23:50:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87v8zpml5d.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87v8zpml5d.fsf@yahoo.com> <87o85hma9k.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34718"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 16 05:52:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mxikd-0008pc-2v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 05:52:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60734 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxikc-00064q-6G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 23:52:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50718) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxiiZ-0002Hw-Dk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 23:50:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:2520) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxiiV-0002wr-Im for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 23:50:10 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 756A510018A; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 23:50:06 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7ABE9100129; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 23:50:05 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1639630205; bh=99LC9waDynEx6pEV9l4XHZTx7MEpv4zFHH1YfKZrojU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=oPXLFIko62idCRKA6grhwsXSKMyKR3XlGoN6dEa0GzJsluIFP+sFt2fSoBLOmAnN6 uOGQW6vp+jwvdLZVfMGXY+gyUzpQNQ2wD+OsJP9UMH1dAonuMHBDNeedDHd8FEjgsl FOXuZIj06vKGPitcwetGjFAoY6W6R4kfpFEDeajeu97taAxuN6HwqOLJB0n/YSCK13 HIoyetTXg2DyjFRlld86Xqa9Fu3BS+Cfh3JllMo+HqU6YXvf6mAc3qCAuU7dMAPqS2 5EPXBEaHEuwo7Th3pt+s8341GNzg+Wr5g0xkQFvjGKAIPqgXPliwm52d5OsOuEBITH VcTnlUkoncJ1g== Original-Received: from ceviche (unknown [216.154.30.173]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4636A12029D; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 23:50:05 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87o85hma9k.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Thu, 16 Dec 2021 12:41:43 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282101 Archived-At: >>> xwidget.el defines various parts of the internal xwidget machinery, such >>> as the `xwidget-event' handler, and pieces of Lisp code that keep >>> xwidget display working correctly. >>> >>> Using xwidget-related C functions without xwidget.el loaded can lead to >>> crashes and display problems, so I propose to preload that file on >>> xwidget builds. >> >> IME files that are preloaded in some config and not on others are >> a source of trouble. I'd rather we fix this some other way, e.g. by >> autoloading those function. > > How would autoloading solve that problem though: `make-xwidget' and such > are defined in C code, but their display depends on xwidget.el to work > correctly. Depends on details I don't know, but presumably `make-xwidget` could explicitly require/load `xwidget.el`. Or the display could end up loading `xwidget.el` when it calls a function defined there in (by marking those functions as autoloaded). Stefan