From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 262a7c9ea0: New minor mode elide-head-mode Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:36:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <164172314114.31544.13495331125988316383@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220109101221.E3FDAC0DA16@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87ee5htdhu.fsf@yahoo.com> <871r1ht923.fsf@yahoo.com> <87v8yrpy3z.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40308"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 10 18:38:31 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n6yco-000AKC-7Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 18:38:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38864 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6ycn-0007l0-8A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:38:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44862) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6yaf-0006Fc-8h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:36:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:46134) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6yac-0003ip-W8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:36:16 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BD62B440803; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:36:12 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6546C4408B0; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:36:11 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1641836171; bh=Pvol1WpBQVZMj0t+Gqq8h3EItO4zZaaukIJHjzothtM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=maT4Xigqbk1+V7Zf4wxm1i0/ZkgQc6GpS6I6t3XuynfL15MP4lSpIIpmBJm81L1FL CHTUP8UqVUkkEfiRpGMZvxrJqGjpDQBXhMe4Hh9OvLSe8r0d0ickbeNLdVuGzLh3ah XdCaz6kKchJSOsYu/rBy5NcVmjoe+ckzHVgfc/ukzmiTf9bFfZLfKNP/pZikALmFo3 QKHskANRM9d/FCtAEvF5AViOFHmLp+fiRAyogk8mv21ufWC/ODvYTHkF0QQLglBdXv Dxm9kw8jCsUGEmI4q908fLqDiuz1/zl1o/ym3euZYaAPinAXbM5+wLHDyEOR0AbwV4 QH1xYImAPrNDw== Original-Received: from ceviche (unknown [216.154.30.173]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0447512033F; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:36:10 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87v8yrpy3z.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:35:28 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284541 Archived-At: Po Lu [2022-01-10 20:35:28] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> `elide-head-mode` already works both to enable and to disable the minor >> mode interactively. For use on hooks, `elide-head-mode` already works >> to enable the mode. For the rare case where the users need to disable >> the mode from a hook, they should use (lambda () (elide-head-mode -1)). > > Adding an anonymous function to a hook hurts, Fully agreed. > and IME `elide-head' is (or at least used to be) something commonly > placed in site initialization files. `elide-head-mode` gives the same result as `elide-head` when placed on a hook. The need for an anonymous function is only when you need to disable `elide-head-mode` from the hook, which is very unusual. Stefan