From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Patch] Avoid recording chars when reading passwords Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:27:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87edzz8dzo.fsf@elite.giraud> <834k0v5f7z.fsf@gnu.org> <8735g7vb47.fsf@elite.giraud> <83bkuvtr3q.fsf@gnu.org> <83tu8nrvdb.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15727"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: manuel@ledu-giraud.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 15 14:35:46 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o1SFM-0003oC-JB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 14:35:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37034 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o1SFL-0001na-Hd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:35:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57340) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o1S7s-0004oz-4H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:28:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:1277) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o1S7o-0003h7-0S; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:27:59 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 2EC7B10048C; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A2AD6100280; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:27:52 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1655296072; bh=tRYy2BwGX2RS+ViNCRpAqle321PF0q+Hi+J8sTNcKSY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=f7UgAm4zhkHRX2NWXlok5BNskVxFR4Tv751Gpe9ApwdZVwCl9tXfCd/S5+1wdXW6r j/cralBN3Q11tOHlYK6prXffshRym2B7cwscvnO85+zIm9IidVhTgiXW8ri7hkpqYz 4Z2MbQE7Gi8d8Y2NnPZw/jCTJJVuyEJKwqTwT/B9zB4ogJ+e4tLw57zpn/+prdcTBg MTFDfS8ySFFLuz+xBFvi1tpyl7vbao3selqalEpwtOtV+b8a+hSBAJvqHm33m+HgQU S+Rhw6Oy3BzWD7yDwZULUImZ1oQrLvBmdqWPFUIm8RGSK1eyZ1mW2lZcdrzhc6rsSe sAjFbbOBm07Pg== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.221.51]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57CEC120180; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:27:52 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83tu8nrvdb.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 14 Jun 2022 20:46:24 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291208 Archived-At: > The next question is: do we want to enable this by default I'm strongly in favor of it being enabled by default, yes. I think most people expect that their passwords aren't trivially available in clear from the lossage. > and in a way that users cannot have the previous behavior back? I'd think being able to redefine `read-password` is sufficient, because it should really be extremely uncommon to need your password to appear in lossage and/or a dribble file. Stefan