From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Bundling ELPA packages (was: [ELPA] New package: Ement (Matrix client)) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 12:12:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87tu5px1v9.fsf@gmail.com> <878rn14vk0.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="779"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Payas Relekar Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 02 18:15:35 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oU9KR-000AWt-0o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 18:15:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55284 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oU9KQ-0007iX-3W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 12:15:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oU9Hj-0004S8-2u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 12:12:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:12949) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oU9Hf-0007EO-Ex for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 12:12:44 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BB547100C99; Fri, 2 Sep 2022 12:12:41 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 44C511002CB; Fri, 2 Sep 2022 12:12:40 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1662135160; bh=vJb79BfbpO4cH7jqCUShjHN0yoVRZVZikkzdMjiKdSU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=Cd8SX/PX2+QC590VGP/QZqhVPejUkr+LRuIX74f9EHJCWcGmgyuP6nREUaf2V4iXf Ig+39ebdSgGWFhKgQSTD1U6zOB1K8YYwD/0aVn+h/HTuiNY3JfKkZUaOSg0iGBFP/F cVjsRm3NxtE1RQlxfFwyd+F5zhw4faPnX9ONoFMi/Fo9DMtWjCCUUdtWoVtT1xspbG 1oBlX357EvHtByKgUV5pV9FCcQPxmpoqi2fTDO1lz04fmxYL5S3ob+ZGPAxxIrGlnf oKaLYrWNNEDs7HSFvyWKJSi8pxOvnt+sB1GO+kjq+hEARjlt/v5gWkl3Q6Ef9gmEF4 r83Qw7iizivEw== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [157.52.9.190]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC467120820; Fri, 2 Sep 2022 12:12:39 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <878rn14vk0.fsf@gmail.com> (Payas Relekar's message of "Fri, 02 Sep 2022 21:26:14 +0530") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294573 Archived-At: >> I think the plan/intention is rather to move things out of core. >> To make up for it, the intention is then to provide a new mechanism to >> "bundle" some GNU ELPA packages into the "default" build of Emacs. > Well, assuming that happens, can Ement be considered for default > bundling? I don't think we will be able to answer that question before it happens, sadly. And that's been planned since ... Emacs-26 :-( There's a branch in the `emacs.git` (I think it's `feature/core-elpa-by-copy`) which attempts to do that, but IIRC it needs a bit more work, and more importantly, it needs a clear support on the part of the head maintainers (because this is a fairly big change in terms of what it imposes on what you need to do to build "normal Emacs" from Git). Stefan