From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 19:57:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <164484721900.31751.1453162457552427931@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220214140020.04438C00891@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87bkqmqpvb.fsf@posteo.net> <871qris3xb.fsf@gnus.org> <877d1aqoc1.fsf@posteo.net> <87edvhqdrb.fsf@gnus.org> <871qrh2hh6.fsf@posteo.net> <87mta5oyec.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfjx10x1.fsf@posteo.net> <875ygsp0ng.fsf@gnus.org> <87h70c9bu4.fsf@posteo.net> <874jw73cjy.fsf@posteo.net> <87edv72z11.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgdmrd0y.fsf@posteo.net> <87y1t544kx.fsf@posteo.net> <87mt9l2c6g.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1151"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 25 02:00:02 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1on7MQ-00005d-B5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2022 02:00:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1on7KF-0004i2-K9; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 19:57:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1on7KE-0004Z1-4h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 19:57:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1on7K7-0006PU-KF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 19:57:45 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id AFD3F80263; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 19:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 9C0578076F; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 19:57:35 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1666655855; bh=b/0SullHWQ0aEr+r7elBIgy4gShrgLzlMFRkReojaiI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=cgl2F7AAUONLfFneYXQCIfK64Tf4GDdk0sYzwib39U052TlpYux9nz8Uc5vrviwQ2 Eb7Ean4OR2HuIcvIzWOzvgdPb+0wU2q5hQdCih76tUHk5JeO/hEUvHa7BILNvgJFc5 lmQHshV+1Y9DHfRuctdzQWFec1/go9HCUwgiXWB+8vIocONdr3uboqWAx37rGpWbrs aK55QB7WC1FmoibzrUo6VWp2fyGFPTbkxuiRJ2fBJIyf5e4WT/oxh8r0JVtOMX3BGT 8igoc27Ra2hS6akYinq9uhJirMDGPpzaOS54MSz+GraSlyZ/7TTZ5O18j2P5zg7H8k 0LyTeVdQqWQBA== Original-Received: from pastel (65-110-220-202.cpe.pppoe.ca [65.110.220.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 566BE1200FC; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 19:57:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87mt9l2c6g.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Mon, 24 Oct 2022 20:34:31 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, T_SPF_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298435 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic [2022-10-24 20:34:31] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> Philip Kaludercic [2022-10-24 15:35:42] wrote: >>> Stefan Monnier writes: >>>>> One thing I recently noticed are :url entries of the form >>>>> "bzr::https://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/org-edna-el" >>>>> >>>>> or >>>>> >>>>> "hg::https://hg.savannah.nongnu.org/hgweb/enwc/" >>>>> >>>>> How are these handled? I couldn't find anything specific to this in >>>>> elpa-admin.el. Is this a Git feature? >>>> >>>> Yes, it's a Git feature. Git will use the `git-remote-FOO` extension to >>>> access those repositories. In my experience it tends not to work super >>>> reliably and those extensions aren't installed in `elpa.gnu.org` so we >>>> don't auto-update from those repositories. >>> >>> That also means that these repositories should either be filtered out >>> from elpa-packages.eld or the format should indicate that VC backend is used. >> >> The current format will work for those users who have the corresponding >> `git-remote-` adapter installed, but yes I guess we need to >> refine a bit what we mean by a "URL". Currently it's actually not >> really a URL but the "name" of a Git repository, tho it happens to look >> very much like a URL. >> >> Maybe we could use something like >> >> `:url (hg "https://hg.savannah.nongnu.org/hgweb/enwc/")` > > Looks fine in principle, Would this only apply to non-Git repositories > that just happen to look like a URL? All non-Git repositories have such a URL, AFAIK, but yes, we'd use that for all non-Git repositories (all 3 of them :-). Stefan