From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: new *Help* argument highlighting Date: 09 May 2004 20:25:13 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040510013534.F994.LEKTU@mi.madritel.es> <20040510020140.F99A.LEKTU@mi.madritel.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084149544 724 80.91.224.253 (10 May 2004 00:39:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 00:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon May 10 02:38:56 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BMyoq-0002Zv-00 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 02:38:56 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BMyoq-0000dW-00 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 02:38:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BMygR-0004rH-Go for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 20:30:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BMydI-0004U3-SD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 20:27:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BMybx-0003zC-Ds for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 20:26:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BMybb-0003bt-DJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 20:25:15 -0400 Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFBB2121A; Sun, 9 May 2004 20:25:13 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 931E18C6AE; Sun, 9 May 2004 20:25:13 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-Reply-To: <20040510020140.F99A.LEKTU@mi.madritel.es> Original-Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-0.904, requis 5, BAYES_30 -0.90) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23008 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23008 > Yeah, sorry, I didn't intend to imply that. But I get the feeling (I can > be wrong) that there are people who simply likes the Help buffers with > no highlighting/font-locking at all. I think you're wrong. There's a lot of problems with adding colors. But playing with font size is pretty safe (at least, I can't remember a single complaint from the font-size change in Info-mode, for example). Bold sometimes causes problems as does italics. Too bad: I find them irreplaceable. Using proportional fonts OTOH is asking for trouble, not because "some people won't like it" but because we'll encounter many bugs linked to the poor support for proportional fonts in the current code. > That's also a bit surprising to me, given that we use font-locking in > a lot of cases, like the recently added `completions-fist-difference' and > `completions-common-part' faces. It's not like help-argument-name > introduces highlighting on an otherwise very sober Emacs environment... :) As said, it's not the fact of highlighting that surprises, it's just the fact that args and only args are highlighted as if they were so very special. Note that I try to consistently say "surprise" rather than "bother". I'm not opposed to it, but I think it currently looks odd. Stefan