From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Ken Brown <kbrown@cornell.edu>
Cc: Emacs <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: C-h, F1, Backspace, and splash screen
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:01:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvws81lzdf.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A1ED931.60807@cornell.edu> (Ken Brown's message of "Thu, 28 May 2009 14:34:25 -0400")
>>> packages up to date. One annoyance that I've encountered, which may not be
>>> cygwin specific, is that C-h is not available as the help key when emacs is
>>> run in a text terminal. I've looked at the documentation for
>>
>> Nowadays under X11, this is considered as a bug in the
>> terminal's configuration (i.e. most/all terminals don't use C-h for the
>> backspace key any more). Can't you fix the text terminal?
> I think I wasn't specific enough in asking my question, though your answer
> might be the same. The problem doesn't occur under X11. It occurs in
> various terminals running outside of X (rxvt, mintty,...). It's true that
> the terminals can be configured so that backspace doesn't send C-h, but I'm
> trying to set things up to work nicely with the default cygwin
> configuration, in which backspace sends C-h.
Indeed, the answer is the same: it is nowadays generally considered
a configuration error (or at least misfeature) for a terminal to use C-h
for backspace.
> I don't have any control over these defaults.
The first thing to do is to complain about those things: while you may
not be able to change them directly, you can at least influence those
who can. Compatibility with xterm is usually a good argument.
`backspace' should send DEL and `delete' should send an escape sequence
(IIRC it should be ESC [ 3 ~).
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-28 21:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-28 16:26 C-h, F1, Backspace, and splash screen Ken Brown
2009-05-28 18:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-28 18:34 ` Ken Brown
2009-05-28 21:01 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2009-05-28 21:19 ` Ken Brown
2009-05-29 1:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-29 4:17 ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-05-29 11:48 ` Ken Brown
2009-05-28 22:44 ` David Robinow
2009-05-28 23:06 ` Ken Brown
2009-05-29 14:23 ` Rupert Swarbrick
2009-05-29 22:07 ` David Robinow
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