From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bootstrap deleted DOC-nnn file Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 15:08:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83vc6rb31c.fsf@gnu.org> <87vc6qdxfe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83sj1ta13i.fsf@gnu.org> <83d2swaom8.fsf@gnu.org> <871u9aj159.fsf@hase.home> <51926737.7050004@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368644943 18849 80.91.229.3 (15 May 2013 19:09:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 19:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 15 21:08:59 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uch4K-00024c-Ts for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 21:08:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33183 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uch4K-00006j-0o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 15:08:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47733) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uch4G-00005D-Uv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 15:08:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uch4F-0000TR-Am for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 15:08:52 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:32979) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uch4D-0000Sx-Qj; Wed, 15 May 2013 15:08:49 -0400 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id r4FJ8fAR014447; Wed, 15 May 2013 15:08:41 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id DDA98B4161; Wed, 15 May 2013 15:08:40 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 15 May 2013 07:43:17 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4579=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4579> : streams <960906> : uri <1420543> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159599 Archived-At: > It takes many hours to bootstrap, and even plain make takes a while. Many hours sounds odd. Bootstrapping takes a while on my low-power machines as well, but even my home server (a Mele with Allwinner A10 processor) bootstraps in less than an hour and a half. > I generally go for a few months between updates. Then bootstrapping is probably the right choice, indeed, because just "make" probably won't be much quicker, and this way you don't have to worry about the case where "make" fails. Stefan