From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
Cc: Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Referring to revisions in the git future
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:29:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvwq7h1yoj.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141030083156.GA2683@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Thu, 30 Oct 2014 04:31:56 -0400")
> The tension here is fundamental. You can have easy typo fixes, or you
> can have a record that is both reliable and snared, but not both.
> I think the latter is more important than the former.
I think you've just been brain-washed by the Bzr/Git/Hg crowd.
There's no reason why the commit message would need to be considered as
being part of the "immutable history". IOW there's no technical reason
to include the commit message in the Git hash.
[ For that same reason, I think a DVCS like Git should not include the
parents in the computation of the hash either, so you can later on
change the history graph (which might not be a DAG any more). ]
Furthermore, even now that those tools have already decided to keep the
commit message in the immutable history, we can still change the way
"git log" displays the commit message, by including "git-log-patches" in
subsequent commits. I haven't seen such a tool for Git yet, sadly.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-30 13:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-28 22:33 Referring to revisions in the git future Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-28 22:54 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-28 23:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-28 23:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-31 22:47 ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-29 0:49 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 3:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-29 12:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 12:41 ` Alexander Baier
2014-10-29 14:52 ` Barry Warsaw
2014-10-29 15:01 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-29 15:06 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 18:12 ` Barry Warsaw
2014-10-29 22:09 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-29 22:29 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 23:31 ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-30 0:01 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-10-30 1:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30 2:10 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 2:13 ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-30 2:48 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 2:25 ` Glenn Morris
2014-10-30 10:10 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 13:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30 13:40 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30 13:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30 15:12 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 16:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30 6:46 ` Jan Djärv
2014-10-30 7:36 ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-10-30 8:09 ` Jan Djärv
2014-10-30 8:31 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 9:53 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-30 10:13 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 10:32 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-30 11:13 ` Nicolas Richard
2014-10-30 10:12 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 13:29 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-10-30 15:33 ` DVCS design philosophy Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 16:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30 17:41 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-31 20:18 ` Referring to revisions in the git future Nicolas Richard
2014-10-31 21:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-01 1:44 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-01 7:58 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 14:20 ` Barry Warsaw
2014-11-01 1:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-30 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-30 3:32 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-30 4:35 ` Barry Warsaw
2014-10-30 5:24 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-30 10:17 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 13:42 ` Alex Bennée
2014-10-30 13:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-31 6:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-31 19:42 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-01 1:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-01 7:05 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-01 7:09 ` Dima Kogan
2014-11-01 7:28 ` Paul Eggert
2014-11-01 7:49 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-01 9:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-01 10:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-01 11:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-01 13:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-01 13:21 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-01 10:29 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-01 11:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-01 11:57 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-01 12:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-01 12:47 ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-01 13:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-01 18:58 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-01 12:49 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-29 1:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 6:06 ` Werner LEMBERG
2014-10-29 9:01 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-29 8:50 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-29 9:52 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 11:00 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-29 14:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-29 14:35 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-29 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-30 4:44 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-30 8:32 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 10:25 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 11:51 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 12:14 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-30 15:01 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-30 15:56 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-31 7:47 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-31 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-31 10:21 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 12:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 13:00 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2014-10-29 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 14:39 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 14:46 ` Rasmus
2014-10-29 14:52 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 0:58 ` Rob Browning
2014-10-29 15:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 14:04 ` utf8 and emacs text/string multibyte representation Camm Maguire
2014-10-29 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-29 15:55 ` Camm Maguire
2014-10-29 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-30 14:13 ` Camm Maguire
2014-10-30 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-30 16:27 ` Camm Maguire
2014-10-30 16:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-31 18:05 ` Camm Maguire
2014-11-01 9:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-01 18:32 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-01 18:41 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-01 19:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-02 0:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-01 1:16 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-29 16:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 15:56 ` Raymond Toy
2014-10-30 14:16 ` Camm Maguire
2014-10-31 18:47 ` Sam Steingold
2014-10-31 21:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-31 19:52 ` [Gcl-devel] " Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30 3:08 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-29 13:26 ` Referring to revisions in the git future Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 14:49 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-30 2:43 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-29 13:08 ` Jan Djärv
2014-10-29 13:27 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 13:49 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-10-29 18:03 ` Jan Djärv
2014-10-29 11:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-29 11:37 ` David Kastrup
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2014-10-31 9:43 Eli Zaretskii
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