From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Summary and next steps for (package-initialize) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 18:29:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83tw12cocz.fsf@gnu.org> <83wp5xat6i.fsf@gnu.org> <83pobk9aly.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1503786615 21779 195.159.176.226 (26 Aug 2017 22:30:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 22:30:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Radon Rosborough Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 27 00:30:09 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dljae-000587-E5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2017 00:30:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58842 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dljal-0001vd-7S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2017 18:30:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36228) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dljad-0001vE-QO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2017 18:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dljaY-0004Ex-St for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2017 18:30:03 -0400 Original-Received: from pmta21.teksavvy.com ([76.10.157.36]:19714) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dljaY-0004EL-Lt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2017 18:29:58 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2GOFwCh9aFZ/ybz92hcHgYMg1pEijmGB?= =?us-ascii?q?I8jAYFwLwGYCIVBBAICg2JYAQIBAQEBAQIDaCiFGQEEAVYjEAs0EhQYDSSKPAi?= =?us-ascii?q?zBYtXAQEIAiaDKohbimkBBKBkiywBBYsOiUaHKJY9WIENMiEIMUmHNySLVgEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?Q?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2GOFwCh9aFZ/ybz92hcHgYMg1pEijmGBI8jAYFwLwGYCIV?= =?us-ascii?q?BBAICg2JYAQIBAQEBAQIDaCiFGQEEAVYjEAs0EhQYDSSKPAizBYtXAQEIAiaDK?= =?us-ascii?q?ohbimkBBKBkiywBBYsOiUaHKJY9WIENMiEIMUmHNySLVgEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.41,432,1498536000"; d="scan'208";a="2524981" Original-Received: from 104-247-243-38.cpe.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([104.247.243.38]) by smtp.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 26 Aug 2017 18:29:56 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B294762275; Sat, 26 Aug 2017 18:29:56 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Radon Rosborough's message of "Fri, 25 Aug 2017 14:34:26 -0700") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 76.10.157.36 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217837 Archived-At: >> how to allow users to use `M-x customize` in order to modify thing >> like package-load-list and package-user-dir. > I think this will require some special handling on the side of Custom, > right? Different from what we do now, yes, but "special" in the sense of being taylor-made ad-hoc for package.el, ideally not. Maybe simply the ability to spread the saved custom settings over several files is all that's needed (with a default arrangement that places all the package.el settings into ~/.emacs.d/early-init.el and everything else in ~/.emacs.d/init.el). Stefan