From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:26:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87imhw431x.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mu78huhx.fsf_-_@yahoo.com> <87k12bdgx7.fsf@yahoo.com> <83zhb6grtq.fsf@gnu.org> <83ftcwgb07.fsf@gnu.org> <291bb5b2-92d5-85f1-57d8-895eed14ffc2@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="97604"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , =?windows-1252?Q?S=E9bastien?= Gendre , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 22 05:27:41 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jR633-000PHO-3J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 05:27:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40396 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jR632-0002nO-5J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:27:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43578) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jR62R-0002F8-L9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:27:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jR62Q-00054U-GJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:63978) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jR62O-0004p2-60; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:27:00 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 09BDE100EF4; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:26:58 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 53CBC100ED8; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:26:56 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1587526016; bh=WSA8d9NyWzhkPH/egSClepDINwxLp3+JbIS9TxMT1bk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=FvrEYIjx+4gynpxWH2FFK158S94hu3NMg/Hx3Sp4k7KEZToxevR3IYbSOuoTkRQ1P ULuwxc3lLaa9P1yMEgUmCbeBh8C8oSwjYLoTpjiFpX3KrEDH9Su8iqN93wWAntUk3r NmbRkiW7HxUQYHlo1uBkahWHGfs9Z49bHeAfskYc1VZ9snA97jXeRViEuhcCheW47m alstcHpbj8wftX/ASIyUF6TYxJxdhJSLaYwbACE9uZEBEb5uwPxAWCNrVQ+tM2Xkl3 Xwdt/wCk1fw5pCl/GXCuC5XQ2UzfhuJxsBacCB25nB3QWvtIhX8VqSS3i7oZAAhlaG TG9V9HkeMaxuw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.241.114]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0DFF81204F0; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:26:56 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <291bb5b2-92d5-85f1-57d8-895eed14ffc2@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 22 Apr 2020 04:35:48 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/21 23:26:58 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247493 Archived-At: > The pre-configuration could contain just one line: > > (require 'shiny-settings) Nitpick: `require` is *really* not the right job since just loading a file should not change Emacs's behavior substantially. Ideally, it should be a custom-theme, but second best could be a minor-mode. Stefan