From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 17:56:14 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <97DA7804-F647-4A1D-B8E0-AFFE7A324C64@gmail.com> <87d07xamrg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878silajdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tv18pyh4.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k122osth.fsf@russet.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="117121"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , Yuan Fu , Emacs developers , ndame To: Phillip Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 26 23:58:21 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jSpI5-000UNW-18 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 23:58:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47102 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSpI3-0004DT-JT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 17:58:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36816) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSpGM-0003Bj-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 17:56:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSpGD-000617-W0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 17:56:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:50865) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSpGD-00060o-Ga for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 17:56:25 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E4EE31007DF; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 17:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7957B10040C; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 17:56:20 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1587938180; bh=CoBTubq7+xlg0pMK4pDH7cZ0hoVrK5nLH20p1HV2Elo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=esC4YLP1KsCjal5AyIYQxI7japXxm97pU4pzgMm4API65idUKuhsETCbJYvykKSBv hNJzcJBBSu2ZnjDLhBFOKmeYTLalmZgJye2ZeeI0gdvNq9JpFmOW/8f7iwjoeWiQ4j KF5sh/E9Jv3w4gxOwzNfkXpXG9gVIva3TexQsDUpHgEetK865+P/aigHWzeLjik5Rl SHZrc0SSW0g7p3E+KtIR7x9vFbBldKH0isGXZv9LKjwTWhKh3+psknU5cNdnO3pJS3 XFeX70xHmczBsX2b2bMbVuU0oD1Y5Pa7fPAaAE6/ngRvFAmTxWj/CdpLyWOwqe4b94 6wGHEBYQFoLpg== Original-Received: from alfajor (69-165-158-35.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.165.158.35]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33A2A120420; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 17:56:20 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87k122osth.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Sun, 26 Apr 2020 22:11:54 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/26 16:54:47 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247864 Archived-At: > Even then, there is no easy way of doing it, other than just asking and > taking it on trust. Yes, no doubt that this a problem. You can always ask me or Eli to lookup the name in the official list, but clearly it's inconvenient. Stefan