From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 09:03:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="64779"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 02 15:04:33 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUrom-000GjM-Th for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 15:04:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39176 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUrom-0006AO-0J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:04:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39428) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUroC-0005Qa-0A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:03:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUroA-0000dh-Cm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:03:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:13726) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUro9-0000bm-UP; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:03:54 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 70A12814FA; Sat, 2 May 2020 09:03:52 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 8FB5F814D9; Sat, 2 May 2020 09:03:50 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1588424630; bh=juSyIRHmSvZYOLlcEWgwnEH0hCvNAU/hUKAXbir4hKw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=dNl/cxLemJGiGva/hWq0pUDNEJ9K6FdV8sj4jQ40fnkhedZzy5sOSPrYKlbmtEb/3 u8uxzkTf8yaXr8/cQgq1n1TjrNAS3WsdZkS1Ue0S3lJd4QxFuXVVLJ21+wUvyDy4VJ xD2GUBAMVLLXytN/dvTrsUA7XFziMLhkR2fSRhYu4LDXXxLkGEywkcy2Gk9lcW67Zl fjR/38aVHTJTQvOq0Q5zTnJrQahS7DHpmW8SrCtmPn4xhTUvJ4Xh+aTDSUttUCJIBf pt76NZc5huQUpb0DIf6lkJJqSabf+MKUmgQazzCVCuT4aB7SPru7dI4xwsu+H/M6cP TUccIFxfKeD2Q== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.3.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1F248120743; Sat, 2 May 2020 09:03:50 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 01 May 2020 22:23:44 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/02 08:59:26 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248426 Archived-At: > Renaming 'concat' seems also like spurious inconvenience in the name > of rigidity -- the Lisp equivalent of bureaucratese. Funny, I find `concat` a perfect example of a bad name because it doesn't say what it is that it's concatenating nor how. If I try to imagine myself a "fresh new Elisp programmer" I can't intuitively know which of `append` or `concat` does what I want. Stefan