From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Bringing GNU Emacs to Native Code" at the European Lisp Symposium Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 01:17:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <69d8b48d-bd09-41c1-a89d-ed76fe0284a4@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="69677"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: akrl@sdf.org, stefan@marxist.se, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 04 07:17:57 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jVTUL-000I2b-NQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 07:17:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52132 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVTUK-0001Qg-MI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 01:17:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49012) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVTTc-00010Z-1o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 01:17:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:28891) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVTTX-0002Qa-Qd; Mon, 04 May 2020 01:17:11 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A8E531009CC; Mon, 4 May 2020 01:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BD1101009A3; Mon, 4 May 2020 01:17:03 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1588569423; bh=yVvQtIFsU4U1T4AihDvz1VTQ1D2DcFTLWIJhR4oMCes=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=BiPdTzvKKRD2j+5OSHh+IjVObvxa4RgIpE7XaCFGTkLXLDjGjMkzrKPL3W/j3nc4e HO+ZpPtKpSJ6Xm5BZ1+49pBwhfHyG95OnHCwlZ2mAdrl/s9KkDDUP9r0mywbO0xyK3 i2g4NL4f8b+KWmr9jdPD5DICtqGpFv6q4AS2ibNjVvOhEX26V1OfjGC8OeZOrju5JW CunYBJZM0AofNw52ioOj7nadNHb982YjsN9cMuZruF+ImtuORtLchiIWEsSCfeRk01 SaJXHrX6NcKI78UpjIIwJNADuRTghjZP2R6x9HS5P1lZ9sKSMXBbO4r0kUSfmLVIKB Y6IMIjY5Slk4w== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.3.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33CDE120743; Mon, 4 May 2020 01:17:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 03 May 2020 23:09:01 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/04 01:11:13 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248787 Archived-At: > > I go a little step further: while it's good if someone does it (and > > I think that it will likely come almost for free at some point), > > I don't think it's necessary to do it eventually. > It is sloppy to leave part of the job unfinished. > We should finish the job. We're talking about optimizing code: i.e., a job that can never be finished. Stefan