From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2020 15:05:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq.ref@Ergus> <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> <20200906163515.neovr7h5pa5ah7lb@Ergus> <20200906171430.252c4ur4rcud6tci@Ergus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6071"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Ergus , stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 06 21:06:38 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kEzzp-0001UX-E3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 21:06:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54758 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEzzo-0005Qz-GU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 15:06:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35550) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEzzC-0004zG-MF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 15:05:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:26027) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEzzA-0007bu-FX; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 15:05:57 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 47AFF440C26; Sun, 6 Sep 2020 15:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7E0F3440C17; Sun, 6 Sep 2020 15:05:50 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1599419150; bh=JABblfuYaoTcFMo3yYKINXxE3b1NTAmYVyfFGfOPy1o=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=DvNsPlnWH3oT1GD9njIKzVq8CPDaOOhnaYs57YWFItxNKLncO0/bxveRwOwyrvbF1 7fScfcDYgxxpuE59kq16RDV1wF5fZuqqWNTt5YEwMkjAcy8/yrP/XuDUP7aWBR0ivQ q02ND08ktywozb60dUZIwBNCQN0FPXQzmdAtE8qsq01F2bMyRJM8CGCuAyLeg6BZ3U MvMiJ50Pfbr/XXkjdYV8dwfQV6gtB9mXstYsptbAwJqZJfKnb7nFe7eRdjyT26GjfV G3mV4eanPdd/Fp3xnLfDNt9ArNOIiN7//EWPE73m4qdSUGq3u9Gqqc/aVY0PpzLEUc feIQThjxOsjBw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 408731201E7; Sun, 6 Sep 2020 15:05:50 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Alfred M. Szmidt's message of "Sun, 06 Sep 2020 14:11:08 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/06 15:05:52 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254583 Archived-At: > Is there a reason why the user needs to enable this explicitly? IIRC the issue is that it prevents *other* uses of the mouse in xterm. But I'm not quite sure what these are nor how important they are. Maybe it's time to make a formal request to enable it by default? > Not everyone uses xterm as their terminal of choise. Not sure how that's related. `xterm-mouse-mode` should only have an effect in the terminals in which it works. Are you saying that it is known to have undesirable side-effects in some terminals? Stefan