From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: non-gnu elpa issue tracking Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 23:36:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20201209125516.lenqswi7fhiscbr2@E15-2016.optimum.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8757"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Jean Louis , Richard Stallman , thibaut.verron@gmail.com, Boruch Baum , Emacs developers , Stefan Kangas , Andrea Corallo To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 14 05:38:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kofcq-0002BE-80 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 05:38:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33630 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kofcp-0002lR-9i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 23:38:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36872) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kofbX-0002EJ-Tx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 23:36:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:6352) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kofbR-0002aV-4O; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 23:36:58 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B23E01002B8; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 23:36:51 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0392B10022E; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 23:36:50 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1607920610; bh=bEtJVNWdyhpEPP/kuZvT0TT9zTBnj1kuYER+IiZfABA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=LrXyD9jOUMT8NM76Au5/swQumU1kkznKqaitTUusOIsLw+BKn+yq0jZUzPXvIPxVa 1UBU1tSeiDjOSdT3pXjLSSRup6i8tzrUwcTFkjrGdlblukh0uOMLAaHtGBwO23cpSf sj4K51cMXiMj8izI+6H2YeSXj/XMzCWJpfk1RC8Yy4DWIXa9qi8nX14c9C3JhCgQvt O1z3+cpxyLTUAH1Foe/YuXaRjKN9hqR+KC9GoEd995DrlBhuSOiXiG0G36bI3E06vF SaC2g6zq1WDz5tpLh5FjT1HPZmYJ+NCup4Y3+s+q0M3/aXIG3sGhluB4LIZRLfveFe CJMMvhZU2AfVQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (69-165-136-52.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.165.136.52]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9BEC91203CA; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 23:36:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Tim Cross's message of "Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:54:41 +1100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260786 Archived-At: > I'm not sure I get the subtle difference you seem to be referring to. From > my simple end user perspective, I find a package in the list of packages by > running M-x list-packages , for example, I have the following in the > current list - > > ack 1.10 available gnu interface to > ack-like tools > > When I move to that line and hit enter, the following window pops up, > providing details about this package > > Package ack is available. > > Status: Available from gnu -- Install > Archive: gnu > Version: 1.10 > Summary: interface to ack-like tools > Homepage: https://github.com/leoliu/ack-el ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The subtle difference is that this link doesn't come from `externals-list` but from elsewhere. We just include it as a convenience for the end user and for the package maintainer, not as something we use (the one we use is the one in `externals-list` and we only use it with Git so we could change it from `https://...` to `git://...`). This said, I'm not sure exactly what would be the benefit of removing this link: I don't think it would convince the package's maintainers to move to some other hosting platform, and I don't think it would prevent users from finding that the official homepage is on Github. Maybe we could adorn the link with some warning text, OTOH (and maybe refrain from making the URL into a hyperlink). Is that what you had in mind? Stefan