From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Handling extensions of programming languages (Perl) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:24:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87o8ff560t.fsf@hajtower> <87im5lhi6i.fsf@rfc20.org> <87r1k94cnx.fsf@hajtower> <20a4ef1c-beaf-1d63-b984-12be9a856c86@gmail.com> <87h7l43fa1.fsf@hajtower> <87blbc33tm.fsf@hajtower> <878s6fs2kq.fsf_-_@hajtower> <87y2efqek7.fsf@hajtower> <87r1k7q92b.fsf@hajtower> <87lfaergil.fsf@hajtower> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35011"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: haj@posteo.de (Harald =?windows-1252?Q?J=F6rg?=) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 23:26:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOT07-0008z6-IG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 23:26:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58270 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOT06-0001Eb-Ki for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:26:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58610) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOSyi-0000ix-B3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:24:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:63229) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOSyf-0001ux-9A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:24:51 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 5AF9844038A; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:24:48 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id EF42D44031E; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:24:46 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1616451886; bh=Caj4krioGcaqA/PGHTzqK538lqwJvZsZZvWH4mNKYf4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=aGuR95FJKy2SjbTDCBy3F0k+sXus0mQmVTshUDtoKCNhzeCbHHct6nBsz2OyvTCnV vtB0xgr8I5b80Hm7Z4NwDNjn01WuSzf5GfhlFqEmqM1prjE0ofGMzAh0C2xD3uG2YH usUtDzqbvvcK39AP1OXId5DhG9hWwYecNfzpZgknTaKizAPSQnz2mYCbjbZ2WlBW3v 69HrFJh8c9Gc6we2ZMeAo/72lSFrXzQuml+Kj4BnvJju+XBjJi+HpkVo5/J1U1NeeH Qjcrvae0HspOy3O1RlZQLtay+HOvhVGQA6dH+Up4uO5fP0bdtFNt0XoyTvZ29I2cbq 6nymNBxXF5gPA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.43.249]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7BEDE1203FF; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:24:46 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87lfaergil.fsf@hajtower> ("Harald =?windows-1252?Q?J=F6rg=22?= =?windows-1252?Q?'s?= message of "Mon, 22 Mar 2021 23:05:22 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -32 X-Spam_score: -3.3 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URI_DOTEDU=0.984 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266841 Archived-At: >> Of those the only ones that are statically typed seem to be C, Java, >> Fortran and PL/1; and AFAICT only 50% (C and Java) use a syntax where >> the type is placed at a location comparable to where `my` is placed in >> Perl, IMO. > > Fortran, too, unless you do the IMPLICIT trick. OK, I must admit that my knowledge of Fortran syntax is poor, so I had done a quick search and found https://pages.mtu.edu/~shene/COURSES/cs201/NOTES/chap02/declare.html which seems to suggest that the syntax is "TYPE :: VARS", which seemed different enough from "TYPE VAR". OK, I'll grant you half points for Fortran, so you're up to 62.5% ;-) Stefan