From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding use-package to ELPA Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2022 21:29:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87k0dbi7ol.fsf@posteo.net> <871qzgyfuo.fsf@posteo.net> <87ilsre5jf.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgm2bpez.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8186"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: chad , EMACS development team To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 07 03:30:58 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nR39F-0001tw-GC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2022 03:30:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60322 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nR39E-000823-2c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2022 21:30:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45154) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nR38H-0007GD-SU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2022 21:29:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:10566) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nR38F-0001N3-DT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2022 21:29:57 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6863C44153A; Sun, 6 Mar 2022 21:29:53 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 2F77F4405E8; Sun, 6 Mar 2022 21:29:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1646620192; bh=mX1bNrv1ymCH1Ukr6Q+YAGtGZPgt2T1K8bELQgkysm4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=OWwXNI2HyP8zovubazQRphaBLTRsasqV5SPQDiWtWlVUbF/dTJa2vH9Cf9L7UbNBZ tmqMpZrrlCJIOjbMx+KZcywoq3r7wrkUpC6YjQNS/Bh95hm7mupQvh6Y/F7am8KLtR pHjrU6ytMloZCnXmujZhjbUcH+FjgaIVjdDx3RBfFk+e1rHs0cvXvAk82lXdh23kOL p5Rl7VBa/Xr0azGqZNerDwW76Wcsga8I6S5Z+p9TdO0/PZ31EnF6IKeXiuu3eJxoZv +iqYM8m7w19nsfKs0Wqkr4FpNObnHV+Bxm7LC18BaP6zrLVpJzKt9Mgt1eUmPNe/bB ug8gIJ16CeqHg== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.221.51]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 03AF712007C; Sun, 6 Mar 2022 21:29:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Sun, 06 Mar 2022 16:34:23 -0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:286875 Archived-At: >>>>>> "PK" == Philip Kaludercic writes: > PK> I stopped using use-package ~2 years ago, so I don't remember the details, > PK> but it could sketch up a few points that could be discussed, and perhaps > PK> be addressed or at least acknowledged before adding the package to the > PK> core. > Yes, I'd be very open to that discussion. The 2.0 rewrite was before 2015, so > it sounds like what you found is relevant to the current state of the code. I'll just throw in a request of mine: make it so `flymake-mode` gets usable feedback when used in an init file. With "old style" configuration by hand, it's pretty much hopeless, but with something like use-package it seems we should be able to get something tolerable. Stefan