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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] New convenience macros
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:12:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvveb6uldt.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <microsoft-free.87fy2akt2z.fsf@youngs.au.com> (Steve Youngs's message of "Fri\, 24 Aug 2007 04\:24\:04 +1000")

>>> (if (and (featurep 'simple) (featurep 'xemacs)) a b)
>>> warns about free variables for both `a' and `b'.  So I think having the

>> That's a valid criticism, but I fail to see how your macros would fare any
>> better on the above kind of code.  I.e. what code would you write instead of
>> the above, using your macros?

>   (or (do-in-xemacs (when (featurep 'simple) a)) b)

Aka (or (if (featurep 'xemacs) (when (featurep 'simple) a)) b)
which would naturally be rewritten as

   (if (and (featurep 'xemacs) (featurep 'simple)) a b)

>   (with-emacs-type 'xemacs (when (featurep 'simple) a))
>   (with-emacs-type 'emacs b)

(if (featurep 'xemacs) (when (featurep 'simple) a))
(unless (featurep 'xemacs) b)
which would naturally be rewritten as

   (if (featurep 'xemacs) (when (featurep 'simple) a) b)

> Both only warn about `b' and the resulting bytecode has no mention of
> `a'.

Same for my alternatives, which are the most obvious translations of
your code.  Note that the macro form is never simpler or clearer.
So I really fail to see the value of those macros.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-23 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-18 14:30 [PATCH] New convenience macros Steve Youngs
2007-08-19 15:52 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-20  2:06   ` Steve Youngs
2007-08-20 10:58     ` Kim F. Storm
2007-08-20 18:30     ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-23 10:54       ` Steve Youngs
2007-08-23 14:12         ` Johan Bockgård
2007-08-23 14:47         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-23 18:24           ` Steve Youngs
2007-08-23 19:12             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2007-08-26 14:52               ` Steve Youngs
2007-08-26 22:47                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-27  3:20                   ` Steve Youngs
2007-08-20  4:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-23 11:13   ` Steve Youngs
2007-08-23 15:11     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-23 18:24       ` Steve Youngs

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