From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Introducing 'unrecognized and 'ignored Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:31:32 -0500 Message-ID: References: <200801031805.m03I5SBf022748@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200801050901.m0591mQj011970@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <20080105143415.GG30869@thyrsus.com> <200801061037.m06AbIRD004966@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200801070259.m072xY0s005194@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <20080107032649.GD9473@thyrsus.com> <20080107125619.GD9920@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199719918 24498 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2008 15:31:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tom Tromey , Dan Nicolaescu , emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, harsanyi@mac.com To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 07 16:32:18 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBtxT-0001x2-MV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:32:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBtx6-0006xw-LH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:31:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBtx3-0006xg-0i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:31:45 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBtx0-0006xU-Jr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:31:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBtx0-0006xR-Ej for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:31:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBtww-0003MC-Rt; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:31:38 -0500 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746342CEF6E; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:31:38 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2878F3FE0; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:31:33 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 136E86CAB6; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:31:33 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20080107125619.GD9920@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:56:19 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86483 Archived-At: >> > Seems reasonable to me as well, except -- do we really want to show all >> > uncontrolled files and have no option to suppress them? >> >> I don't understand: every VCS I know has some way to label files as "to >> be ignored". So there is always an "option to suppress them". > Yes, but you sure don't want to have to set an ignore property by hand > on every member of a huge tree you happen to have in your working > directory and *don't* want to be in the repo. I don't see a problem here: you set the "ignore" property on the tree itself, of course, not on each individual file. In any case, I don't understand what this has to do with VC: no matter which front-end you're going to use, you'll hit the same problem, and the answer is always the same: use the "ignore" property. Stefan