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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: C-x C-b and C-x C-f bugging about confirmation
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:03:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvvduhm0cl.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vduhm69c.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> (Chong Yidong's message of "Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:46:23 -0500")

> have a RET rejected.  You might argue that it's no big deal to type a
> second RET, but it's similarly no big deal to kill the buffer and try
> again in the very few occasions that you make a mistake.  So this looks
> like creeping featuritis if it's enabled by default.

In my experience typos (most commonly after a TAB completion which
completed less than expected) are a lot more common than opening
a nonexistent file.  And hitting RET one more time is much less painful
than killing the new buffer and starting over (opening the buffer may
have created a frame, may have prompted the user for insertion of
a default template, and after killing the buffer you have to repeat the
previous command and retype the name all over again).
The trade off is blindingly clear to me.

My take on it is that if the feature had been the default from the
beginning, nobody would even contemplate adding
a `confirm-nonexistent-file-or-buffer' option just to save themselves
typing RET one extra time when creating a new file.

So while I understand that habit will make people complain, I think
those complaints will disappear quickly.


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-21 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-21 13:33 C-x C-b and C-x C-f bugging about confirmation Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-11-21 14:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-21 15:46   ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-21 15:51     ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-21 16:08     ` Sam Steingold
2008-11-21 17:07       ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-21 21:23         ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-11-22 16:12           ` Miles Bader
2008-11-21 18:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-22  3:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-22 10:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-23  3:39             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-23 11:25               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-24  3:08                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-24  7:24                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-11-24 15:50                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-22 12:18           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-11-22 13:51           ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-11-23  3:50             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-22 11:35       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-11-21 18:03     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-11-21 18:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-21 19:29       ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-21 23:58         ` Tassilo Horn
2008-11-22  3:30         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-22 10:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-22  1:54       ` Miles Bader
2008-11-22  7:08       ` mail
2008-11-22  8:24         ` Miles Bader
2008-11-21 18:37   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-11-22 11:26   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-11-23  3:49     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-23  4:44       ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-23 11:24         ` Romain Francoise
2008-11-23 12:45       ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-23 13:45         ` Miles Bader
2008-11-23 15:27           ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-23 22:17           ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-24  3:18           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-24  5:21             ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-24 15:52               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-24 19:58                 ` mail
2008-11-25  4:03               ` Miles Bader
2008-11-25 15:21                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-25 20:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-24 11:24       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-11-24 15:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-24 17:52           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-11-28 18:52             ` Romain Francoise
2008-11-28 19:12               ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-28 21:06               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-28 22:27                 ` partial-completion-mode (was: C-x C-b and C-x C-f bugging about confirmation) Romain Francoise
2008-11-29  2:48                   ` partial-completion-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-11-29 19:44                     ` partial-completion-mode Romain Francoise
2008-11-29 20:42                       ` partial-completion-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-12-02 12:39                 ` C-x C-b and C-x C-f bugging about confirmation Klaus Zeitler
2008-12-02 13:05                   ` Tassilo Horn
2008-12-03 12:22                     ` Klaus Zeitler
2008-11-22 11:16 ` Gilaras Drakeson

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