From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: plist-based package.el (was Re: cl-defstruct-based package.el, now with ert tests and no external tar!) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:41:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <51AE71DB.8060005@yandex.ru> <87zjv41uer.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1370454103 13901 80.91.229.3 (5 Jun 2013 17:41:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 17:41:43 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 05 19:41:44 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UkHiS-0003ki-27 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 19:41:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58514 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UkHiR-0003DD-LI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:41:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46061) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UkHiJ-0003Ck-Vf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:41:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UkHiE-0005c2-S9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:41:35 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:52123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UkHiE-0005bm-Os for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:41:30 -0400 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id r55HfTwb019982; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:41:30 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B6230B4108; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:41:29 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87zjv41uer.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 05 Jun 2013 10:53:00 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4600=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4600> : streams <974538> : uri <1439267> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:160123 Archived-At: > provides a good data API, while a pure-plist approach is inherently less > stable as an API. plists are OK as a "UI" elements (e.g. like the CL style :key arguments in macro and function calls). But as data-structures, they suck rocks. The only other data structure that comes to mind as being even worse are strings. Stefan