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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Nathan Trapuzzano <nbtrap@nbtrap.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Double unquote/unquote-splicing
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:14:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvvc06fz8z.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fvrahovc.fsf@nbtrap.com> (Nathan Trapuzzano's message of "Tue,  05 Nov 2013 10:03:51 -0500")

> I don't think the special syntax does make that clear.

You can't use that special syntax for multi-arg unquote and
unquote/unquote-splicing.  So the special syntax makes it clear that
those are expected to take a single arg.  And indeed, so far, they
can only take a single arg.

>> Your example was the first concrete example I've seen where such
>> a ,,@foo construct was used and as you've seen it's trivially replaced
>> by ,@(list ,@foo) (which is true because ,foo is equivalent to ,@(list
>> foo).
> Hmm, I'm actually not sure that will always work.

Goes to show again that it's too complex for our own good.

>> So ,,@ is not a very compelling use.  Maybe ,@,@ would be more
>> compelling, but I haven't seen any concrete use for it yet, so I can't
>> comment.
> Can't say I know of a good use of ,@,@.  That said, I think it would be
> silly for this proposal to stand or fall on that basis.

There's a straightforward rewriting of ",,@", and there's no known use
case for ",@,@" (which AFAIK can be rewritten ",@(append ,@" anyway if
you really need it).  It probably doesn't break any code, but I prefer
to keep the rule that unquote/unquote-splicing takes a single argument,
since that's true 99.99% of the time, so while people are likely to
understand the single-arg case, and they're unlikely to understand the
multi-arg case.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-05 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-04 14:03 Double unquote/unquote-splicing Nathan Trapuzzano
2013-11-04 17:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-04 17:59   ` Nathan Trapuzzano
2013-11-04 18:11     ` Nathan Trapuzzano
2013-11-04 18:33     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-04 19:01       ` Drew Adams
2013-11-04 19:09       ` Nathan Trapuzzano
2013-11-04 20:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-05 15:03           ` Nathan Trapuzzano
2013-11-05 19:14             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-11-05  4:01         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-05 15:22           ` Nathan Trapuzzano
2013-11-05 21:48             ` Stephen J. Turnbull

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