From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Brittleness of called-interactively-p Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:57:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <871tgeufzt.fsf@gmail.com> <87r3odtngi.fsf@gmail.com> <87380st7c1.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437181100 3242 80.91.229.3 (18 Jul 2015 00:58:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 00:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Dmitri Paduchikh , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: raman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 18 02:58:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGGS9-0007Kt-J9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 02:58:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46552 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGGS8-0002hm-Jd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:58:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33761) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGGS5-0002hU-QG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:58:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGGS0-0002Im-SB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:58:05 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-pri-01.vtxnet.net ([212.147.62.135]:50135) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGGS0-0002IO-Lf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:58:00 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-pri-01.vtxnet.net (VTX Services SA) with ESMTP id B54D5CFD69; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 02:57:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp-pri-01.vtxnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-pri-01.vtxnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H_P_Y5GxufeU; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 02:57:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (dyn.83-228-180-068.dsl.vtx.ch [83.228.180.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-pri-01.vtxnet.net (VTX Services SA) with ESMTP id C4E7ACFD67; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 02:57:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 30122AE09C; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:57:54 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (raman@google.com's message of "Fri, 17 Jul 2015 11:10:13 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 212.147.62.135 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187940 Archived-At: > You're right that the two transitions -- called-interactively-p and > nadvice happened at around the same time. No, they didn't: "interactive-p is ... obsolete since 23.2" so called-interactively-p was introduced in 23.2, whereas nadvice was introduced in 24.4. What is also new in 24.4 is that called-interactively-p (and interactive-p) were rewritten in Elisp. Stefan