From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tramp and conversion of \r\n into \n Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2021 10:46:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <193e76e900f64f01a39893b12cf7c4ff@3ds.com> <871rfw900w.fsf@gmx.de> <87sg8c7i5w.fsf@gmx.de> <4f2b42e36d924f83883e120e601d40f7@3ds.com> <87tuslzrw1.fsf@gmx.de> <7135a39a200c4f8397c8bddb9da8d3fc@3ds.com> <8736014u95.fsf@gmx.de> <3474731f-eada-8185-1a21-f337fd55b38b@thomasross.io> <87k0kzj3wr.fsf@gmx.de> <87a6lvhwpz.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6552"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Thomas Ross , yyoncho , APEL Martin , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 06 16:47:20 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mC183-0001Sy-W3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2021 16:47:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42882 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mC182-0004E2-S4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2021 10:47:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37842) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mC17C-0002sU-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2021 10:46:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:37204) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mC179-00088o-LZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2021 10:46:25 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 07D9B8008E; Fri, 6 Aug 2021 10:46:21 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 45EE180814; Fri, 6 Aug 2021 10:46:19 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1628261179; bh=3oWfshoWaKN7CSBSmtn+RGFmSyT48ws9iby8QTd8BvY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=e60TvY9a6KeUDa9ZhJgQ5FiavvAyLcESB9NX22Grhl8eTVtTHfDJX7DhIgNfiEH5z ceI4RfJokbNMSWJW8uytpChNrwZid5WDWK3q9Btv3UtiSVlLCp9fY4XGwNsUQrKg0Y VIwSG6ojnL+MAfoqXzMGHIOsmt2h7fkDR/JttamoOSiP1uYvIFHlUpk1J9xOZgZg6U YdMbhPtE+BtWadZpbIIE4DRMkaFuW/HMjFDIGIPClQGb0tb65a3EFU9mfkVoFDk0sH EFT1vLJXpXL6xpVtjw4XyFiy1MA7TU+yQRQjlYoVQFOtL0DFbozX80TkbxyiFWmVWR y2eyYO8cOZzbA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.29.138]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E5C8112023C; Fri, 6 Aug 2021 10:46:18 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87a6lvhwpz.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Fri, 06 Aug 2021 09:13:28 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:272140 Archived-At: Michael Albinus [2021-08-06 09:13:28] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> As a general rule, I strongly recommend using pipes except when you know >> you need a tty. ttys have all kinds of quirks when it comes to >> transferring "raw data". > Well, in Tramp the situation is different. It uses the default value t > for process-connection-type, because processes might ask for their > 'remote-tty' process property. I'm not sure I understand: do you mean that a Tramp client using `start-file-process` specifying a nil `process-connection-type` may still end up creating a process that uses a tty? Stefan