From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master f0cd91067d: Improve `C-h b' output for remapped commands. Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:01:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: <165478576035.737.9544262446139689575@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220609144240.9D08DC01682@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87pmjgx4xa.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23122"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 10 15:13:31 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nzeSB-0005pH-Ba for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 15:13:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54200 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzeS9-0003mm-Bk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:13:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56828) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzeH5-0000Ch-Cq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:51961) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzeGx-0003TC-Hk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:02:01 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 830E580377; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E56E58044E; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:01:50 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1654866110; bh=tzzay6hDHUEV82ijQP/3VSYyohXgYAbZI9EY554xeDE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=haEGh5Uf7T9WdV3abjkT+319/knfbAM80S74/Gim/3JQh3LRKZva8DSPYI39QCjo1 YonTUmRd6c9r7kU4ZBFL2wBZr724klR7onSiYL47qLsEGA74pjXIj7nxoiiJ3zzWLw ac/2yodR99sUKuHPMeQuiOP7kDK9THXveqao6LUmwjCNJStfZwCOmfEdJi14rg3DN/ xxM1if35qHtpqzuxtoSzz4ZqRNcwkTxFIWrh9n39u5m3srcDmWWKKdFtxnaEhF5XBP WJ5kJsPUylI3h/WkhD145Okd8/5t3jhJv3qzOjK0RtL2WAhqXsyq/gQLzHE18NxnQq e+7DRqdfWz0xg== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.221.51]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A9978120223; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:01:50 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87pmjgx4xa.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 10 Jun 2022 11:07:29 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290998 Archived-At: > Hm... What about just flipping things around and using our words? > That would also make the lines shorter. I.e., > > C-x 4 C-o ido-display-buffer > (Remapped via .) > C-x 5 C-o ido-display-buffer-other-frame > (Remapped via .) Sounds good to me. I don't have an opinion on the specific wording within the parens, but I'll mention that a single `remap display-buffer` can cause various key bindings to be remapped, which is why I suggested ido-display-buffer C-x 4 C-o which naturally generalizes to things like: ido-display-buffer C-x 4 C-o, C-c C-o C-o Also, a remap entry can have 0 corresponding keybindings, in which case we should keep something like ido-display-buffer -- Stefan