From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Magit Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2022 14:45:28 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87zgflc6m9.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <877d2ocou6.fsf@codeisgreat.org> <8735d93r9n.fsf@disroot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40640"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Akib Azmain Turja , Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 03 20:46:33 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oUYA4-000AKN-KY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2022 20:46:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33882 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUYA3-000100-Jx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2022 14:46:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34552) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUY9B-0000Bi-LF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2022 14:45:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:52121) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUY98-000481-Rb; Sat, 03 Sep 2022 14:45:36 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 95E8C441067; Sat, 3 Sep 2022 14:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 4A6FA440F49; Sat, 3 Sep 2022 14:45:30 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1662230730; bh=eMwyV18kwRGlnKxZW/93UAUH7zjco545YGSbqwFjiIY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=glgdNDhY2qZBByFS9QbYAHvdDa9Vh3mJIJutkv4IFu8NttObid59O+ngPTBFmob8V xcvNzkZJEpUAajY0+KLvZP2ri/VGSOeNqR1WO7gB1FZkh/Lct5uTSDtpfyKva/YLwa OWY/lLXUeZYhMCvH89kw3pzVFd2o3QJyyfVb3RHqTDgLgTa4NKjARN0eDmjFY2Z9Oa fWDkxIJ+/G/qiGgCDHVn01TIvB4P87zfTrjrasunFN0S+dPTSedd1qzhcqVN42Ot5p fQ46CWzX0tH7VzxYYXcTBuAyVz3yD4Cy6Y6FhCuIS7DhUBIjBvlJ+da89dRsFAR6UR TO2p8TnMjwtHg== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [157.52.9.190]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D4954120842; Sat, 3 Sep 2022 14:45:29 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sat, 3 Sep 2022 08:16:43 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294673 Archived-At: >> But even if we do make such an exception, having a copy of Magit in >> `emacs.git` would add extra maintenance burden to keep that copy in sync >> with the one maintained elsewhere. So for administrative reasons, it's >> probably preferable to keep it outside of `emacs.git`. > > I'm not sure I understand the objection. Is it not just a question of > popping something like this in a shell script that runs every N days: > > git clone magit > cp magit/*.el lisp/magit > rm -rf magit > git commit -a -m "; Auto-update Magit" > git push People can (and do) commit changes directly to `emacs.git`s `master` branch and the above would silently revert such changes. It also means that the Magit files in `emacs.git` don't get a proper commit log history, making it harder to track down and fix bugs. I'm all for including more packages in Emacs, but not by copying them into the `master` branch `emacs.git`. I'd rather have a Git submodule or some such mechanism. Stefan