From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding a "quick-help" menu Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2022 14:00:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87v8pn4968.fsf@posteo.net> <87r10b465q.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28687"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Philip Kaludercic , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 16 20:03:19 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oZFgM-0007Fh-Hr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 20:03:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36576 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZFgL-0004PR-FR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 14:03:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42080) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZFdh-0002FZ-VJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 14:00:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:47782) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZFdf-0000Qc-FR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 14:00:33 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DB81D807AF; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 14:00:29 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 8720B80626; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 14:00:28 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1663351228; bh=q1TuA15ujaZAKaWX+BSe5J+hxbUnw5lN8DSyeZG2Pi4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=SgwMc6vJpYJDyBBUzDRjhsL5CeIPdKd6/8MCPQl8piISsvekvkqk/AJuWFc4btPNg hTanOZu/W/2PZTKKLRdWJGwqgWbl7AOKAZoJ25AsWFbPN28jf70c8r3HHv4pP5+d4+ IWOBuJVGdtcjsDnyQbI6MU67GfAWxm4uKl1L4T7uIOUmbNuoAWTIBuwwxjxXOivF9c 3MLm+WFRgb+tYrboSbrkVNEBuOtqnwtLpL372dq4bi4Cw/brCXFnycKHz+ryCsyxPO 1vjJFLmPpqzpOZGwTSQ40tlyRTxuiRUipeVm8k8DIxKzndylWKsHmbgUkQPTbfUfe5 kf6vARjosuKOw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.44.229.252]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5422712013F; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 14:00:28 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Fri, 16 Sep 2022 13:11:39 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295496 Archived-At: > I'm not sure if you are referring to any real issues (a.k.a. bugs), or > if this just a general concern. If the popup is too jarring, we could > experiment with a longer delay before it pops up. > > FWIW, in my many years of using it, I've never seen any issues with it. > It always leaves my windows just as they were when it goes away. Then > again, I don't use the highly advanced customizations that some other > people do. I have no clear opinion on whether we should enable it or not, but FWIW I just tried it in my config and when after I press `C-x` in my minibuffer-only frame, Emacs gets into a busy-loop eating 99% of the CPU (and growing its heap) until I finally hit another key. Probably easy to fix (and I didn't notice anything fishy going on with my setup even though it tends to trip up many window-creating packages). Stefan