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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Distinguishing `consp` and `functionp`
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 16:13:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvv87fkdny.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALDnm51TOu=Q0ihApbZA7Jxma55HdS0qmGRgYGjr34ny-9uU4w@mail.gmail.com> ("João Távora"'s message of "Fri, 26 Jan 2024 19:22:56 +0000")

> Is fine and correct, but:
>
> (funcall '(lambda ()))
>
> Shouldn't be fine, yet it is.

That is related but I'm not really interested in disallowing it.

Rather I'm annoyed at the corner cases where

    (functionp (mapcar ...))

can occasionally return t, simply because the returned list happens to
start with the symbol `closure` or `lambda`.

This is one of the motivations why completion tables are defined to
allow "lists of strings" or "alists whose keys can be strings or
symbols" but not "lists of symbols": even though in practice lists of
symbols work fine 99.9% of the time, they are not reliable because
they'd be confused with a function when the first symbol happens to be
`lambda` or `closure`.

There are various other circumstances where we like to accept either
a function or a list of things, but where the test is not reliable and
can give different results depending on whether the code is compiled.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-26 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-25 23:15 Distinguishing `consp` and `functionp` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-26  0:00 ` Adam Porter
2024-01-26  0:24   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-26  7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-26 19:22   ` João Távora
2024-01-26 21:13     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2024-01-26 21:50       ` João Távora
2024-01-26 23:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-27  0:22           ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-27 11:47             ` João Távora
2024-01-27 13:20             ` Po Lu
2024-01-27 11:53           ` João Távora
2024-01-28  3:03           ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-28 21:27   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 12:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 15:19       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 15:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 15:41           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 15:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 15:48               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 15:54             ` João Távora
2024-01-29 16:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 16:25                 ` João Távora
2024-01-29 16:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 16:17               ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-29 16:34                 ` João Távora
2024-02-01  3:49                   ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-29 16:28               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 16:34                 ` João Távora
2024-01-29 20:00                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-30  8:58                     ` João Távora
2024-01-30 12:54                       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-30 22:24                         ` João Távora
2024-01-30 23:13                           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-30 23:43                             ` João Távora
2024-01-31  0:22                               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-31  0:40                                 ` João Távora
2024-01-31  3:37                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-31 10:51                                     ` João Távora
2024-01-31 18:34                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-01  3:49                   ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-29 17:09             ` Yuri Khan
2024-02-01  3:49             ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-30  3:58     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-27 11:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-27 14:25   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-27 23:01     ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-28  0:00       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-28  6:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-28 17:26         ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-28 17:48           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-28 19:42             ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-28 20:08               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-28 18:21           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-28 18:38           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-27 13:14 ` Po Lu
2024-01-27 14:41   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-28  1:56     ` Po Lu
2024-01-28 20:55     ` Stefan Kangas

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