From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Disabling mouse input Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2024 13:04:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86sesaytjn.fsf@gnu.org> <4p6cs2adzzqihjdustvlklr3ykrrz7eq7rtz2ciywcyevgmoej@klyfgnsjtnti> <86h68py3zy.fsf@gnu.org> <86fro9y3ki.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36010"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: dradetsky@gmail.com, luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 02 18:04:49 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t7HYP-0009Ds-AR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2024 18:04:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t7HY8-0008Tw-CD; Sat, 02 Nov 2024 13:04:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t7HY7-0008Te-H0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2024 13:04:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t7HY5-0004Th-Ky; Sat, 02 Nov 2024 13:04:31 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3476B440845; Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:04:27 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1730567066; bh=lyvRpB++qP3T1lDiMRfzuKPHIDrodAkxDU6F5sE98zg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=UP4ulW5omreU+RGXIw1AmGuW8UH+ThKclEi51vhI9x9+AJysDLbROJSkHXj5N9NL5 cSLSIIiBy9xzvr2aFzZlDEbL2MOpeZIrJTpRwPcv1knYsoSvrdwapvRZ8bMelnFR3/ 62CgEvBryqsKrR5u0aTxrzr8bUJdO4nvp2nvx/AJjOuRfG6QZa4GreUXt6Ua2Ml+cx Wkzd219Bi+mQYyvqSJ2SmAk8A4TyuPA8iVZSdCtltz3Bue2Z3DZ6/AAcfJaVC77dXX bqt9J8J69a9y5r/Ag5joCKHKuWSAfU1Ezx+RDS8lV8LJkUo1mORwe8AUR7uv+i7tRI 3CuIAj9Er48DA== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 331704407E7; Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (104-195-225-43.cpe.teksavvy.com [104.195.225.43]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F1E8E120317; Sat, 2 Nov 2024 13:04:25 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <86fro9y3ki.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 02 Nov 2024 18:59:25 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325022 Archived-At: >> I think the answer is yes, tho I'm not sure what you mean by "think >> input events arrived" nor why you seem to think that would be a problem. > > I mentioned that in my original comments: stuff like while-no-input > will think some input arrived, which is not what the users would want, > when this knob is used. IIUC the problematic events tend to occur "in the middle of other events", because they are generated as a side effect of the hand movement that causes the other events, so I suspect the effect on `while-no-input` is not particularly important. Stefan