From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Florian Beck <abstraktion@t-online.de>
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:24:22 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtzgcwp7b.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87abi4r3ci.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> (Florian Beck's message of "Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:13:33 +0200")
>>>>> Look, if you think my setup is bizzare, please ignore my report. But
>>>>> I don't think it is.
>>>> Me neither, see the sub-thread[1] about this in April on emacs-devel.
>>> Well, /usr/sbin/sendmail indeed *does* exist on my system, although the
>>> sendmail package is not installed. Confusing, isn't it?
>>
>> Not necessarily: many packages (i.e. most MTAs) provide
>> /usr/sbin/sendmail. Could you try and figure out what that
>> `/usr/sbin/sendmail' is?
> It is from the postfix package, but obviously not configured:
> fb@aeschylus:~$ sendmail
> sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
> fb@aeschylus:~$ echo $?
> 75
Good, so this one is not misconfigured. We should be able to DTRT here.
>> We definitely have a problem in this respect. Traditionally on Unix,
>> sending mail is done via the /usr/sbin/sendmail program, but nowadays
>> it's very common to have such programs completely misconfigured.
>> It's fundamentally a bug in the distributions, I believe, but it's not
>> one that we can expect to see fixed any time soon, so we're going to
>> have to deal with it.
> As a test, I installed sendmail from the ubuntu repository. It kind of
> works, but only delivers mail locally. Of course, now sendmail returns 0.
I.e. it's broken and misconfigured.
> So a misconfigured sendmail may be difficult to detect.
Yes. But clearly we're not even doing the right when sendmail fails
cleanly, so there's room for improvement.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-02 2:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-30 12:59 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently Florian Beck
2008-05-30 13:59 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-30 21:42 ` Florian Beck
2008-05-30 21:52 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-31 0:44 ` Florian Beck
2008-05-31 9:18 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-31 10:56 ` Reiner Steib
2008-06-01 2:47 ` Florian Beck
2008-06-01 8:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-31 9:53 ` Reiner Steib
2008-06-01 2:54 ` Florian Beck
2008-06-01 7:59 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-06-02 0:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-02 2:13 ` Florian Beck
2008-06-02 2:24 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-06-05 5:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-05 11:53 ` Florian Beck
2008-06-05 13:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-05 14:28 ` Florian Beck
2008-06-06 6:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-06 19:04 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-06-07 1:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-07 2:28 ` Florian Beck
2008-06-07 14:23 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-07 7:50 ` Reiner Steib
2008-06-13 4:15 ` Kevin Rodgers
2008-06-13 14:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-02 8:07 ` Paul R
2008-06-02 18:56 ` Reiner Steib
2008-06-02 19:15 ` Paul R
2008-06-03 8:26 ` tomas
2008-06-05 5:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-05 12:41 ` tomas
2008-06-05 16:43 ` Don Armstrong
2008-06-05 19:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-01 5:36 ` Chong Yidong
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