From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "no-conversion" coding system Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:39:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <484F1FAB.6070005@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216086015 4278 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2008 01:40:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 15 03:41:02 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KIZXF-0005Vu-1I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:40:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54495 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIZWL-0000t1-B3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:40:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIZWG-0000sS-2h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:39:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIZWE-0000sD-Ne for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:39:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42381 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIZWE-0000s4-H0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:39:54 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:63572 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KIZW3-0003Lx-N8; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:39:44 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ahc/AJOce0jO+IfCPGdsb2JhbACBWoZyiVoBAQEBLQGZZYFo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.30,362,1212379200"; d="scan'208";a="24344748" Original-Received: from 206-248-135-194.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.135.194]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 14 Jul 2008 21:39:36 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6EE3585AB; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:39:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:19:07 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100710 Archived-At: >> Its other name "binary" is a lot more unequivocal. > Only if you are a programmer who knows that binary files are usually > read with no conversions. Otherwise, the name "binary" doesn't have Since the `no-conversion' method depends on the underlying byte-encoding used in a file, it is inherently something for programmers, bit-twiddlers, ... Stefan