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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	Roland.Winkler@physik.uni-erlangen.de
Subject: Re: proced: ppid of process ID 0 can be 0
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:11:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtz8lvbck.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uy6y5b7l3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:12:56 +0200")

>> >> > Processes that disappeared while Emacs was reading /proc, for example.
>> >> Then don't return them at all
>> > How?  I don't know enough about Linux kernel internals to decide which
>> > attribute's absence means that the process died while Emacs was
>> > reading /proc.
>> 
>> AFAIK we're talking about ppid, and this info is always present, so if
>> it's absent, don't return the process.

> Can you find any authoritative reference that says we can rely on
> this?  I couldn't even find a decent documentation of /proc when I was
> working on these primitives, let alone some information about what
> attributes are always present or how that changes with the kernel
> version.

The ppid is in the /proc/NNN/stat file, those attributes are
distinguished by their order, so if it's missing the ordering gets
messed up, so it can't be missing.  As for the /proc/NNN/stat file
missing, that would mean that pretty much all the attributes returned by
`ps' would be missing, so we can definitely count on its presence.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-30 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-20  2:52 proced: ppid of process ID 0 can be 0 Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-20  3:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-20  4:31   ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-20 19:10     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-20 10:20   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-20 11:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-20 19:41   ` Roland Winkler
2008-12-20 21:02     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-20 22:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-20 22:41       ` Roland Winkler
2008-12-21  4:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-21  4:48           ` Roland Winkler
2008-12-21 19:17             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-21 21:26               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-22  4:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22 10:41                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-22 19:17                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22 19:26                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-22  2:45               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-22  4:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22  4:17                   ` Miles Bader
2008-12-22 19:10                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22  8:54                   ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2008-12-22 10:43                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-22 10:50                       ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2008-12-22 18:03                       ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-12-22 10:59                   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-12-22 19:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22 19:37                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-12-22 19:59                       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-12-22 12:23                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-22 19:57                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22 22:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-23  4:02                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-23 12:28                           ` Roland Winkler
2008-12-23 14:44                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-23 19:12                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-23 20:41                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-23 22:34                                 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-12-24  2:34                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-24  4:14                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-24 16:47                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-24  4:15                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-24 16:47                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-24 18:29                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-24 18:55                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-24 21:12                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-30 17:11                                           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-12-30 22:02                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31  1:40                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-22  8:28               ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-12-21  2:18       ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-12-24  7:42 grischka

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