From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: What does `undecided' do for encoding text?
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:47:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtz6u4hu9.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1LZ1u0-0004QQ-9M@etlken> (Kenichi Handa's message of "Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:44:44 +0900")
>>>> It looks like `undecided' works the same as `raw-text' for encoding
>>>> text. Is that true in general?
>> > Yes. More exactly, it is the same as `raw-text-unix'.
>> Which I prefer calling `binary'.
> What do you mean by "calling"?
> raw-text-unix and binary are different when
> coding-system-change-text-conversion and
> coding-system-change-eol-conversion are called.
Good point, I tend to forget about this. But in the context of "how is
`undecided' treated during write", this doesn't make any difference.
>>>> I think this should be reflected in the ELisp manual.
>> > I don't think so because it is just a fallback behavior, and
>> > Elisp programmer should avoid specifying `undecided' on
>> > encoding.
>> Then why do we even allow it? We should signal an error.
> It seems difficult to find a good point of signaling an
> error. At least, visiting an ascii only file, inputting
> ascii only, and saving it should be a valid operation. At
> that time, buffer-file-coding-system is undecided-unix.
Then an error should only be signalled when we end up trying to encode
a non-ASCII char.
Stefan
prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-16 13:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-07 15:32 What does `undecided' do for encoding text? Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-10 7:01 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-02-10 9:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-10 11:16 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-02-10 11:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-11 9:20 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-02-10 22:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-02-16 11:44 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-02-16 13:47 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
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