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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: poplife-mode
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:24:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtvxyp5qo.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 0ad9af94-11cc-4dae-841f-f2918342d1bf@default

>> It's visible if it was activated by an earlier command,
>> of course.  E.g. "mouse-3" followed by "down-mouse-3".
> Pressing and holding down `mouse-3' does _not_ highlight
> the region.  That happens only when `mouse-3' is released.

`mouse-3` is an "up", so it implies releasing the button.

> If you mean first click `mouse-3' (press and release)
> and then press and hold `mouse-3',

That's right.

> then you are talking about _two_ `mouse-3' clicks (it will be
> released) - similar to what `mouse3.el' does.

But that's only if you want to use the `mouse-3` event first.
My suggestion is mostly about providing *another* operation on that same
button (I expect it will rarely be used together with a mouse-3 event
(i.e. with mouse-save-then-kill)).

> Besides not highlighting the region that is active and
> can be acted on, your approach has the disadvantage of
> mistakenly killing the region when an intended long
> press happens to be a bit too short.

This risk only exists in the case you use down-mouse-3 right after
mouse-3, which I expect will be rare.

And from where I stand, a too-short click is *very* unlikely: the user will
simply down-mouse-3 and "wait for the menu to appear" (as opposed to
"wait 450ms").  And this user will even keep the button pressed
significantly longer: he will only release the button after selecting
the entry he's interested in.

> What's better about it?

No need to double click, hence (except for a 450ms delay) it behaves
just like the "standard" context menu of other applications.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-13 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-05  1:00 poplife-mode Tak Kunihiro
2017-11-05  5:52 ` poplife-mode Drew Adams
2017-11-11 12:47 ` poplife-mode Charles A. Roelli
2017-11-11 15:01   ` poplife-mode Stefan Monnier
2017-11-12 13:55     ` poplife-mode Charles A. Roelli
2017-11-12 16:46       ` poplife-mode Stefan Monnier
2017-11-12 16:54         ` poplife-mode Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-12 17:47           ` poplife-mode Stefan Monnier
2017-11-12 19:17             ` poplife-mode Yuri Khan
2017-11-12 20:32               ` poplife-mode Charles A. Roelli
2017-11-12 20:36               ` poplife-mode Stefan Monnier
2017-11-13  5:03                 ` poplife-mode Yuri Khan
2017-11-12 18:06         ` poplife-mode Stefan Monnier
2017-11-12 20:24           ` poplife-mode Charles A. Roelli
2017-11-13  8:11             ` poplife-mode Tak Kunihiro
2017-11-13 14:36               ` poplife-mode Drew Adams
2017-11-13 23:03                 ` poplife-mode Tak Kunihiro
2017-11-14  0:48                   ` poplife-mode Drew Adams
2017-11-14 23:26                     ` poplife-mode Tak Kunihiro
2017-11-14 23:40                       ` poplife-mode Drew Adams
2017-11-13  1:36         ` poplife-mode Drew Adams
2017-11-13  3:40         ` poplife-mode Drew Adams
2017-11-13  4:06           ` poplife-mode Stefan Monnier
2017-11-13 14:36             ` poplife-mode Drew Adams
2017-11-13 15:24               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2017-11-13 17:08                 ` poplife-mode Drew Adams
2017-11-13 20:20                   ` poplife-mode Stefan Monnier
2017-11-13 21:56                     ` poplife-mode Drew Adams
2017-11-13 23:13                       ` poplife-mode Stefan Monnier
2017-11-13 23:08                     ` Changing default mouse bindings (was: poplife-mode) Alex
2017-11-14  2:50                       ` Changing default mouse bindings Stefan Monnier
2017-11-14  7:07                         ` Yuri Khan
2017-11-14 16:34                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-14 15:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-14 16:35                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-14 16:38                             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                         ` <<838tf8lwqn.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-11-14 15:35                           ` Drew Adams
2017-11-14 16:58                             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                         ` <<<838tf8lwqn.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                           ` <<69307385-5625-48dc-9611-ad7f0b6bd529@default>
     [not found]                             ` <<83r2t0kdaz.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-11-14 19:47                               ` Drew Adams
2017-11-14 20:26                       ` Changing default mouse bindings (was: poplife-mode) Charles A. Roelli
2017-11-14 23:11                         ` Changing default mouse bindings Tak Kunihiro
2017-11-15  3:16                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-16 23:21                             ` Tak Kunihiro
2017-11-17  7:23                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-17 15:28                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-01-10  4:34                                   ` Tak Kunihiro
     [not found]                               ` <<838tf5id1e.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-11-17 15:31                                 ` Drew Adams
2017-11-17 16:25                       ` Sam Steingold
2017-11-13 23:16                 ` poplife-mode Tak Kunihiro
     [not found]   ` <<jwvy3ncx3kx.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>
     [not found]     ` <<m2h8tzppod.fsf@aurox.ch>
2017-11-13  1:06       ` poplife-mode Drew Adams

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