From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some ideas with Emacs Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:19:06 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87d0dbszjn.fsf@mbork.pl> <8736e4titj.fsf@mbork.pl> <871rtoti9w.fsf@mbork.pl> <87v9qysxbb.fsf@mbork.pl> <87lfrusaxu.fsf@mbork.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="210880"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: VanL , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Marcin Borkowski Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 02 22:19:46 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ibt6c-000saz-Ca for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 22:19:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44682 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ibt6b-00062M-6l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:19:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49019) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ibt6B-00060B-2C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:19:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ibt68-0008JQ-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:19:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:56549) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ibt68-0008Hn-Dl; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 16:19:12 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 341FA1004C7; Mon, 2 Dec 2019 16:19:10 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6EFB91003C9; Mon, 2 Dec 2019 16:19:08 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1575321548; bh=VmtWVHTQIXO1EbLGgC1TbPmvf8YIVXNWwh377DrMnAY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Xuupk/6hlgTAAAT8WmopUwx1xm/6ElUy9Yw9tiJMFX+k/VOyLGiGjXUGSRU+8sAqt Id4KKbf3SrP+wRYhUBn5jZRpjhQnruJOncUrtOK9tC+b4JizaNveM6YDu1mpDxEA44 ApQ5E9Ji6Ii2+r1dXFJrjBkv7aIKRVXYdDqGrbKgHzS8pJbCGQWLLluQNDfOgX2zNH SjdMilVaCMx5lLggCfJLFSVzd7zo6npLgMaSa4vyZso2skFq5rtOGDB5Zuo4qMW5IC bcXQul13kr6LqifIYBQSQ5lIWGcMJkxUSb07cxRcFXDZIgMuUEGJQn3Eff/TAE//rR N6xrEGypFm1Wg== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47F6612129C; Mon, 2 Dec 2019 16:19:08 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87lfrusaxu.fsf@mbork.pl> (Marcin Borkowski's message of "Mon, 02 Dec 2019 21:57:01 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243019 Archived-At: >> Similarly, how/why would you list the differences for a translation of >> the book (other than "translated from Foo by Bar")? > This is a different thing - and most probably requiring a green light > from the original author. Not being allowed to write (and share) a translation without the author's explicit consent is a big downer. I'd consider this firmly on the side of "not Free". I can agree that the author may not want to have his name directly attached to the translation, but that's a far cry from disallowing translations altogether. Stefan